memorial day boatloads

twlim

Tse Wei Lim
I keep meaning to write tasting notes more systematically. I'm getting older, memory fails, I can't do this on substack, maybe I'm just trying to persuade myself that I'm actually drinking for a reason other than the pleasures of taste and company. Oh well.

We were persuaded to cater a dinner for Memorial Day Sunday. Dinner in the yard, the guest of honor an importer driving in from elsewhere, apparently bringing a chunk of his cellar. The wine lineup turned out to be more stone soup than singular vision, but wasn't terrible all the same.

Phillipe Lancelot Les Hauts des Epernay 2018
A promising start. Vinous, energetic but not about the energy, noticeably high pressure, it feels richer and redder than the extra-brut, chardonnay dominant blend it actually is, which is right up my alley, though I dunno how M. Lancelot would feel about such praise.

Pierre Moncuit BdB Extra Brut 2008
Correct. Maybe too correct. Certainly the least distinctive champagne of the evening, but nothing I'd kick out of the glass.

Marc Hebrart Noce des Craies 2015
The distributor's rep said, I think in earnest, that this was his favorite champagne ever, but then again, he's a weirdo. Definitely odd. It tasted manipulated, by which I mean it felt like the producer was trying hard to impose a vision that his raw material didn't entirely support. A little disjoint, distinctly chalky fruit on one side, not talking to the dense, woody something on the other side of the aisle.

Corbon Grand Cru Avize BdB 2010, d. 2023
I like Agnes a lot, and until this bottle, I'd have said I like her more than her wines. I've had a bunch of older vintages of this cuvée vinified by her dad and disgorged by her, and Corbon Sr. liked his dosage and I always thought it showed. This was my first bottle of this cuvée vinified by Agnes, and it was so much lighter and more plain-spoken than the blowsy older ones.

Dönnhoff Felsenberg GG 2014
Surprisingly light. Perhaps even too light for what we were eating, which was a chicken and prawn mousseline in a poor man's Nantaise (a rich man, or someone actually being paid to cater, might have used ecrevisses, but we settled for crevettes). I don't have a lot of experience with Dönnhoff GGs, so I can't say if this is style, vintage, or the lightening of age.

Von Winning Kirchenstück GG 2014
Much better with the mousseline, since it was heavier. I remember tasting this on release at a long ago Rieslingfeier (is there any other sort now?) and it's calmed down some, but ain't in any hurry.

Faury Condrieu Blanc "Le Mornieux" 2021
I don't drink white Rhones much, but this was just perfect on the day and with the dish. More floral than fruity, zippy, all kinds of aromatics flinging themselves out of the glass, like toys from a toddler's pram. Not at all fat or warm or heavy or any of the other things that make me not spend money on white Rhones. We were eating a glacée of spring vegetables with a bit of lamb belly on top, and this was just an amazing pairing, a ton of variation and interest in a totally different register than the food, which was equally varied and lively but in a much narrower range.

Cedric Bouchard Val Vilaine 2020
Intense, even more vinous than the Lancelot. I remember drinking the 06s and 07s of this back when you could actually buy them, never mind afford them, and those were these joyous wines, not exactly delicate but with a sort of carefree innocence to them. You could tell the winemaking was serious, but they wore it lightly. This was burly by comparison, and I don't know if it's the climate or Bouchard buying into his deserved acclaim. Still delicious, and clearly related to what it used to be, but not the same. There was a salad of grilled romaine with a lot of hard boiled eggs to temper the vinaigrette, and this held its own.

Confuron Clos Vougeot 2005
The gentleman who brought this would have us believe that this comes from the most perfect parcel in the Clos. I don't know the place down to the row, so I have no way of assessing that claim, other than what's in the glass, and I haven't tasted an 05 burg since... 2022? This is nowhere near as hard as many of those were. The fruit is there and has had time to learn to enunciate, but then there's this silence before the tannin. It's not the emptiness between the stars, but it's noticeable, and I hope something comes to fill it in.

Conterno Barolo Cascina Francia 2007
Not decanted, to my slight disbelief. An interesting way to follow the Confuron, and surprisingly similar. Red fruit, gentle and profound, then tannins all at the back, pleasing and approachable, but again the sense of having caught this while it's still getting dressed. I feel more certain that time will bring this together than I do with the Confuron, but what do I know?

Paul Jaboulet Aîné La Chapelle 1983
Beautiful, absolutely singing. But it's a ballad of middle age not that its best days are behind it, but it's tired from the partying, and knows nothing good lies ahead. By this time we're eating duck, a ragout with porcini and spring onions and the breast smoked and grilled. The duck is from Costco, where apparently all the duck is halal, but the smoke and ragoutage do wonders for the raw material. Honestly the food demands the energy of the younger wines, but the Aîné begs for something savory, and here the pekin-ness of the duck actually helps, the meat is nearly white, so it all works out.

Something that was supposed to be a Bordeaux 1961 but had no label
Interesting. Very much alive. Lightened by years, made elegant and a little austere. The Aîné was exuberant by comparison, but I wish I revisited this after it had been open a while. I didn't because I was distracted by

Macle Cotes du Jura 2010
Is there anything new I can possibly say in this venue about how good this wine is?

Huet Clos du Bourg Moelleux Premiere Trie 1997
Just spanking divine. So exactly what you'd expect and hope for when you buy this, and when the expected is this good, the only surprises I can envision are nasty. Dessert is a barely sweetened rhubarb crumble with sneaky bits of candied grapefruit, and this has the acid and sugar to hold up, the waxiness and citrus peel to dance with the grapefruit, and the complexity to make everything else seem unimportant.
 
Great notes, thank you.

I enjoyed the '97 Huet CdB Moelleux 1er Trie last month -- glad to hear that yours showed well. I'm happy to have a bottle to look forward to in my cellar.

I also had the '12 von Winning Kirchenstuck GG last month -- I respect the winemaking, but I can't quite get past the oak. Elegant wines though.

I have been tempted to pick up an '83 La Chapelle. I appreciate the note on this wine.
 
originally posted by twlim:
a ballad of middle age not that its best days are behind it, but it's tired from the partying, and knows nothing good lies ahead.

Yes, very nice notes, sounds like a fun and delicious evening (all the better that you did the food). But this one cuts deep!
 
interesting remarks about Corbon. Hadn't realized there was a change in style, since the old stuff fiends have opened for me (a couple of 2002s come to mind) had perfectly resolved whatever dosage they may have had at the outset. As to her 2010s, i've now tackled three different cuvees including les bacchantes and i just couldn't recommend them higher unless you are planning on emptying the bottle within the hour of opening: each progressed to the proverbial next level with the passage of time, especially the next day.
 
originally posted by twlim:

Confuron Clos Vougeot 2005
The gentleman who brought this would have us believe that this comes from the most perfect parcel in the Clos. I don't know the place down to the row, so I have no way of assessing that claim, other than what's in the glass, and I haven't tasted an 05 burg since... 2022? This is nowhere near as hard as many of those were. The fruit is there and has had time to learn to enunciate, but then there's this silence before the tannin. It's not the emptiness between the stars, but it's noticeable, and I hope something comes to fill it in.

A lot of us had a hard time even identifying the grape...it was not a bad wine at all, yet nothing that required a second glass. It was somewhat intense and I got some eucalyptus on the palate so logically my choice was between California cab and overextracted Spätburgunder with a generous new oak treatment.

originally posted by twlim:

Something that was supposed to be a Bordeaux 1961 but had no label
Interesting. Very much alive. Lightened by years, made elegant and a little austere. The Aîné was exuberant by comparison, but I wish I revisited this after it had been open a while. I didn't because I was distracted by

The 1961 was Chateau Mouton Baron Philippe, now Chateau d'Armailhac.

Overall we drank mostly well, but the food clearly stole the show.
 
originally posted by Yule Kim:
I also had the '12 von Winning Kirchenstuck GG last month -- I respect the winemaking, but I can't quite get past the oak. Elegant wines though.

If I recall correctly I bought the 13 and 14 because the oak was decidedly lighter as the barrels by then had been used multiple times. Having said that, a year later I realized that I might not need any ever so slightly naked Riesling at all. But in this genre, this bottle is a success and has evolved favorably.
 
originally posted by twlim:
memorial day boatloads
Confuron Clos Vougeot 2005
The gentleman who brought this would have us believe that this comes from the most perfect parcel in the Clos. I don't know the place down to the row, so I have no way of assessing that claim, other than what's in the glass, and I haven't tasted an 05 burg since... 2022? This is nowhere near as hard as many of those were. The fruit is there and has had time to learn to enunciate, but then there's this silence before the tannin. It's not the emptiness between the stars, but it's noticeable, and I hope something comes to fill it in.
It's not clear which Confuron you are talking about -- JJ Confuron, Confuron-Cotétidot, or Christian Confuron (by now there may be even more Confurons having property in the Clos), but all three have excellent siting at the top of the Clos, just down from Grands-Echézeaux and south of the Ch“teau. I can't see making an argument that any of them is better-sited than some of their neighbors such as Leroy, Hudelo-Noëllat, Méo-Camuzet, etc. but I don't think anyone would walk away from their vines.
 
originally posted by Claude Kolm:
originally posted by twlim:
memorial day boatloads
Confuron Clos Vougeot 2005
The gentleman who brought this would have us believe that this comes from the most perfect parcel in the Clos. I don't know the place down to the row, so I have no way of assessing that claim, other than what's in the glass, and I haven't tasted an 05 burg since... 2022? This is nowhere near as hard as many of those were. The fruit is there and has had time to learn to enunciate, but then there's this silence before the tannin. It's not the emptiness between the stars, but it's noticeable, and I hope something comes to fill it in.
It's not clear which Confuron you are talking about -- JJ Confuron, Confuron-Cotétidot, or Christian Confuron (by now there may be even more Confurons having property in the Clos), but all three have excellent siting at the top of the Clos, just down from Grands-Echézeaux and south of the Ch“teau. I can't see making an argument that any of them is better-sited than some of their neighbors such as Leroy, Hudelo-Noëllat, Méo-Camuzet, etc. but I don't think anyone would walk away from their vines.

It was JJ
 
originally posted by Rahsaan:
originally posted by twlim:
a ballad of middle age not that its best days are behind it, but it's tired from the partying, and knows nothing good lies ahead.

Yes, very nice notes, sounds like a fun and delicious evening (all the better that you did the food). But this one cuts deep!

Almost as though we understand the wine's condition!
 
originally posted by Pavel Tchichikov:
interesting remarks about Corbon. Hadn't realized there was a change in style, since the old stuff fiends have opened for me (a couple of 2002s come to mind) had perfectly resolved whatever dosage they may have had at the outset. As to her 2010s, i've now tackled three different cuvees including les bacchantes and i just couldn't recommend them higher unless you are planning on emptying the bottle within the hour of opening: each progressed to the proverbial next level with the passage of time, especially the next day.

You're being as precise as I should have been. I found some of the older ones had an initial sweetness that I thought of as unresolved dosage. I also found them distinctly blowsy, and while I recognize the two things aren't quite the same, I was writing as though they went together.
 
originally posted by Claude Kolm:
originally posted by twlim:
memorial day boatloads
Confuron Clos Vougeot 2005
The gentleman who brought this would have us believe that this comes from the most perfect parcel in the Clos. I don't know the place down to the row, so I have no way of assessing that claim, other than what's in the glass, and I haven't tasted an 05 burg since... 2022? This is nowhere near as hard as many of those were. The fruit is there and has had time to learn to enunciate, but then there's this silence before the tannin. It's not the emptiness between the stars, but it's noticeable, and I hope something comes to fill it in.
It's not clear which Confuron you are talking about -- JJ Confuron, Confuron-Cotétidot, or Christian Confuron (by now there may be even more Confurons having property in the Clos), but all three have excellent siting at the top of the Clos, just down from Grands-Echézeaux and south of the Ch“teau. I can't see making an argument that any of them is better-sited than some of their neighbors such as Leroy, Hudelo-Noëllat, Méo-Camuzet, etc. but I don't think anyone would walk away from their vines.

Thanks for the detail here Claude!
 
originally posted by georg lauer:
originally posted by Claude Kolm:
originally posted by twlim:
memorial day boatloads
Confuron Clos Vougeot 2005
The gentleman who brought this would have us believe that this comes from the most perfect parcel in the Clos. I don't know the place down to the row, so I have no way of assessing that claim, other than what's in the glass, and I haven't tasted an 05 burg since... 2022? This is nowhere near as hard as many of those were. The fruit is there and has had time to learn to enunciate, but then there's this silence before the tannin. It's not the emptiness between the stars, but it's noticeable, and I hope something comes to fill it in.
It's not clear which Confuron you are talking about -- JJ Confuron, Confuron-Cotétidot, or Christian Confuron (by now there may be even more Confurons having property in the Clos), but all three have excellent siting at the top of the Clos, just down from Grands-Echézeaux and south of the Ch“teau. I can't see making an argument that any of them is better-sited than some of their neighbors such as Leroy, Hudelot-Noëllat, Méo-Camuzet, etc. but I don't think anyone would walk away from their vines.

It was JJ
I would think that was either a 2005 that is still shut down or just an off-bottle/day for the wine. The domaine has been one of my annual visits since the mid-/late 1990s and the vini- and viti-cultural work has always been good and consistently improving (the estate has been organic since 1991, quite early for Burgundy). There's now a new generation taking over and making some interesting changes, although the wines are still within the profile previously established.

BTW, Bobby Kacher, once the US importer for JJ Confuron, used to have a separate US cuvée of the wines raised 100% in new oak, but beginning in the early-/mid-1990s, Alain Meunier recognized that wasn't right and told Kacher that he would have to to take the wines as Meunier wanted to make them. Even after that, the wines were still kind of oaky young, but year-by-year Meunier came to understand that less is often more when it comes to new oak and steadily reduced its use.
 
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