Ever-Shifting Wine Bored Demographics(long/brooding)

Eden Mylunsch

Eden Mylunsch
Having recently had my PhD thesis rejected by a vengeful dissertation committee (it was a dissection of the subtext underlying Professor Irwin Corey’s character and performance in “Car Wash”) I have turned to other, more weighty matters to occupy my time.

Learning of Thor’s unexpected shuffling off this mortal coil (referring, of course to “the earth,” not Wine Disorder, which I view as a moral coil) set me to thinking about the people I’ve gotten to know on this wine board over the years who are no longer correspondents, much less attending offlines. Both of the Joes, Mr. Coad, Josh R, and others spring to mind when I think about wine; each helped me construct and frame an aesthetic around the murky conceptual differences between “wine I wanna drink” and “wine I earn a living from.” That those Ayn Randian seesaw-ish oppositions are not necessarily mutually exclusive always deepens my thinking far beyond the expected parameters expected from such geekdom discussions.

Despite the departures of my unwilling mentors past their last stops on the line, it’s not like my oenollectual growth has ceased with their passing or that I’ve stopped buying wines so obscure they might as well have originated in a witness protection program in Burkina Faso or the Kyrgyz Republic. There are other amazing guides here on the board and I’m thankful to read them, but I miss the OG forum icons.

For those of us not inhabiting environs within physical proximity of say, a Brad Kane or Jeff Grossman, there can be a bit of a disconnect between an online personality and and how they materialize IRL. Do we appear better (or just different) in “print” on Wine Disorder than we might were we sitting across a table, debating the merits of Savennieres vs. a Bourgueil Chenin Blanc? There is a certain beauty offered up to the participants in the internet’s ability to host an international confab dealing with any number of anorakian topics (wine in particular) at any date or time, rather than having to fly to some trendy Nepalese pizza joint in Queens or wherever they won’t charge us corkage. The big advantage is that in person, you know you’re dealing with real people. None of this Robt Heinlein/Phil K. Dick puppetmaster possibilities. But that gets me thinking that maybe we could keep this party banging for longer than we might otherwise hope for.

Unless you’ve been stuck in a dead-end call center gig in Oman for the last decade (Oman, Oman, they drink O-Manischewitz there, right?) you’ve probably heard about artificial intelligence stuff. You’ve also probably heard about the mulcting of innocent trust funders done under the aegis of the NFT brokers. There’s also scads of digital currency wafting through the internets and even if everyone actually does remember their password, there’s always someone waiting around to mine more of the stuff. Were I some deep thinker, like for instance Elon Musk or Professor Irwin Corey, I could create a mashup of the human spirit — a beneficient mashup not a JG Ballard’s auto-erotic mashup— and we’d all be better off. Here’s the blueprint:

We’d each patent (or would it be copyright?) our online personae and reconstitute them as NFTs, which we’d take to OpenSea and put them up for sale. Part of the sale contingency is that we would be retained to maintain our personalities over the remainder of our lives, albeit at a high monthly fee payable by the NFT purchasers (not unlike a homeowner’s association maintenance fee). They’d be sold for a lot of money (we’re all pretty much the ne plus ultra of the online wine world, right?) and as the values of each NFT climbs, a portion of the sale price would revert to the original personage, like some fine artists are doing now with the sky-high auction world.

All rights and obligations would be transferred along with the tastefully and artistically custom-etched (empty) bottle of wine that accompanied the NFT. And if we die, that will likely make our NFT more valuable. At that point, we will have fed the artificial intelligence computers all of our writings so they’ll be able to continue grinding out posts that capture our person wine preferences, our critical ethos, and favorite Chinese joint in Cleveland for an offline. And we wouldn’t all feel so sad when one of us

There might be additional value added to the NFT (over and above our never seeming to leave Wine Disorder in that we could include personal mementos of us with those NFTs that could hung on the purchaser’s wall or used in some other way. I’m thinking that Brad’s roast chicken recipe should be worth a premium to someone, or maybe Don could kick in with an original oboe part from “Annie” or “Cats” or some other Broadway musical he worked on. Professor Lipton could pass along a bottle or two of whatever grape he’s growing (and Mark E a wine from Norway or Finland or wherever he is, even if it’s distilled reindeer tears or something that’d impress the pants off of René Redzepi). Or maybe Oswaldo’s got a transcription of T-Bone Walker’s soo on “Street Walking Woman?” I’d think of this sort of thing as value added, a way to generate cashflow for us to buy more wine and flesh out our individual digital presences, and foster our POVs on wine and win friends and influence people and other things (FWIW, the MAGA people reached out to me this week to become Trump’s “Secretary of Wine” when he’s installed but I told them “hell nyet!” because they only want to allow Cabernet and Chardonnay, and besides, I’ve already committed to writing descriptors for the “Kamala Harris Presidential Wine Club”)

Me, I’d sign up for the FL Jim NFT and those from Karen Goetz and Robert Dentice right off the bat. I could hope that their insight and ability to describe that insight could rub off on me in a good way. Does anyone here work on Wall Street or in digital currency or artificial intelligence or any other field that could make this a reality? Who’s in?

-Eden (a lesser bored would have been crushed by such losses, but we stand strong, the few, the proud, the Maureens)
 
originally posted by Eden Mylunsch:
Ever-Shifting Wine Bored Demographics(long/brooding)
there can be a bit of a disconnect between an online personality and and how they materialize IRL.

Eden, interesting posting. Jim's response is customarily appropriate.

There has been a lot discussion over the years about how different many people are with their online presence versus their in-person persona, especially in cases where aliases are used (aliases tend to allow such people the freedom of anonymity).

One of the good things about this board is that most people use real names or their real names are available.

. . . . . Pete
 
originally posted by Peter Creasey:

originally posted by Eden Mylunsch:
Ever-Shifting Wine Bored Demographics(long/brooding)
there can be a bit of a disconnect between an online personality and and how they materialize IRL.

Eden, interesting posting...

One of the good things about this board is that most people use real names or their real names are available.

Oh, the irony...

Mark Lipton
 
A brilliant meditation on the monetization of our after-lives by she who is named for the waters separating the pre-lapsarian from the post.

Personally, I find the sale of Non-Fungible Trolls to be an absolute stunner of an idea for the bored.
 
originally posted by MLipton:
originally posted by Peter Creasey:

originally posted by Eden Mylunsch:
Ever-Shifting Wine Bored Demographics(long/brooding)
there can be a bit of a disconnect between an online personality and and how they materialize IRL.

Eden, interesting posting...

One of the good things about this board is that most people use real names or their real names are available.

Oh, the irony...

Mark Lipton

Just arriving here. First thought.
 
I have long pondered what it might be like to have the freedom to write under a nom de plume and not have to heft the baggage inherent in “me just being me” all the time. According to AI, John Locke “Believed that personal identity is based on psychological continuity and consciousness, and not on the body or soul” so that kind of plays into my contention that all the residents of the wine bored don’t necessarily need to actually exist to say, mar the walls of the wine world as if we were a Sharpie dragged across a whiteboard.

We could even be here-today, gone-tomorrow Etch-A-Sketche images and retain the ability to impact wine thinking if only people read what is written. But even if nobody reads it, the thought is out there in the world, kind of like that Pope (or was it a bear?) out in the woods and a tree falls on him but it gets impaled on his pointy hat so only HE hears it, so does he still undergo full-on transmogrification or does he just keep bumbling along, speaking Latin, blessing strangers who aren’t sneezing, while swinging the thurible like he was Cab Calloway twirling a pocket watch on a chain like he was a character in a Robert Crumb comic book.

You might be asking yourself “what if there was a Wine Disorder offline where everyone just sent a hologram of themselves instead of showing up in person?” Think about how much time and money you could save by doing that “you” would show up and not have to deal with taxis or paying for dinner (holograms don’t eat much). You could program them to post about the jeebus on Facebook or Instagram so you’d be able to see just how great a time “you” had. They do that already for concerts by Michael Jackson and Whitney Houston, didn’t they? Speaking for myself, I’d pay well into the high two-figures to be able to see Frank and Sammy back up there singing with Liza Minelli, and maybe even more if they could be talking about wine between songs. I’d bet that AI will soon be able to come up with enough geeky conversation dibs and dabs to to make it sound like they actually know what they’re talking about, and if we all were able to pair our (AI) wine intellects with the presence of a Frank Sinatra, a Sammy Davis Jr., or a Liza (with a ‘Z’), I think it’d be one helluva memorable night. You could probably get away with swapping out Frank Sinatra’s hologram for Frank Sinatra Jr’s, or even yank the ersatz Liza with a ‘Z’ and replace her with Lorna Luft (AKA: “almost Liza”), and who would notice? Maybe Wayne Newton would, but I think he’s been an AI hologram for quite some time already anyway.

So circling back around to the lede (which was buried so long ago it’s wasted away to being caption-sized), if I didn’t feel compelled to be honest and write under my real name, it’s likely that I would feel good coming up with lame-ish ideas that are not yet technologically possible (much less morally something that would withstand withering dissection)(like Post Malone doing a country record, which is kinda like Burl Ives singing the best Black Sabbath songs, or Liza with a Z doing “Stairway to Heaven.” LOLOfreekin’L!!!)

-Eden (I can’t help but think that if they’d just given me my goddamn PhD in Professor Irwin Corey’s oeuvre I’d probably have some cushy gig in academia by now and wouldn’t have time to be waxing philosophical here at Wine Disorder. And I’ve even read “Gravity’s Rainbow” in anticipation of transubstantiating my IKEA student workstation into something more along the lines of Tyrone Slothrop’s desk.)
 
As someone who did get a Fud and also worked full time in the academy, I can tell you you would still have had plenty of time to read and write copiously to wine boards. Professor Lipton might have a word or two to say as well.

By the way, I am surprised you were not allowed to write a dissertation on Professor Irwin Corey. I suspect you were in the wrong department. Communications and Popular Culture studies (which many universities have) allow dissertations on all manner of things.
 
originally posted by Eden Mylunsch:
We could even be here-today, gone-tomorrow Etch-A-Sketche images and retain the ability to impact wine thinking if only people read what is written.
So true!
 
originally posted by Eden Mylunsch:
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(I can’t help but think that if they’d just given me my goddamn PhD in Professor Irwin Corey’s oeuvre I’d probably have some cushy gig in academia by now and wouldn’t have time to be waxing philosophical here at Wine Disorder. And I’ve even read “Gravity’s Rainbow” in anticipation of transubstantiating my IKEA student workstation into something more along the lines of Tyrone Slothrop’s desk.)

Sez who? And better Slothrop's desk than whatever Tantivy Mucker-Maffick was up to.

Mark Lipton
 
originally posted by Jonathan Loesberg:
I suspect you were in the wrong department. Communications and Popular Culture studies (which many universities have) allow dissertations on all manner of thin gs.

Sadly, the powers-that-be shunted me into the Sociology Department when my research grant on "Professor Irwin Corey and the Practical Uses of Logic, Truth, and Common Sense" was rescinded when the Trump administration decided this topic was no longer worth studying in that they saw no future for my championing of the concept of the terms “word salad” and “Möbius bands of conceptual ideation.”

But I, (as did my bud Hillary), persevered and was taken under the wing of the school's sociologists (not the Scientologists, as has been rumored in the past) and we reformulated a dissertation around Prof. Corey’s role in the “Car Wash” film wherein he played the part of “The Mad Bomber” and scared the bejabbers out of the cast when they thought he had a bottle of nitro or something. Only come to find out (SPOILER ALERT!!!) that he was on his way to the doctor and it was just a urine sample. My in-depth examination of society’s interpretation of this character’s actions (ie: crazy or maybe not glib white guy perceived as a threat by minority workers and it turned out to be just piss (no vinegar), turning the tables on the usual POV of this topic. It was all going swimmingly for me but this was up at Humboldt State and the dissertation review board was kind of liking it until all the locally grown cannabis they were smoking weirded them out and they got all paranoid. They thought that Corey’s resemblance to President Trump and my conversating about the above-mentioned “word salad” communication was likely to draw the ire of the Department of Education and affect their careers and the school’s funding. Even though it was a California State University and that every member of the committee was a full-fledged Amway salesperson and thus ostensibly in the good graces of the Madam Secretary of Education who was beholden to the Orange One, they felt it prudent to deny me my PhD Certificate of Greatness and Wisdom as a token of appreciation for their continued employment.

Who knew that Professor Irwin Corey, the "World's Greatest Authority" would presage Donald Trump and inadvertently wreak havoc with my career? I sure didn't see that one coming! I should have copyrighted my invention of "word salad."

Oh well. My guidance counselor suggested that I might reformulate my thesis and try again at a more liberal institution with a film studies program, maybe Cal Berkeley, UCLA, or Madame Tussaud’s Institute of Wax, but I opted to recuse myself from academia (at least for a while) and pursue a career as an internet influencer. It hasn't paid off big-time yet, but it could happen any day now that I’ll go viral and get famous and be remunerated appropriately. In the meantime, I get by on wine and last month's charcuterie from Grocery Outlet and I ghostwrite think-pieces for “Fancy Wine Review” magazine, which will be published as soon as the owner gets out of jail for his part in a Nigerian treasure scam (his lawyer Rudy Giuliani is working tirelessly to free him).

-Eden (Rudy G. is taking his pay in the form of a share of the treasure once it’s been recovered so as to avoid counting it as a current asset and thus potentially losing it in a court judgment).
 
I'm somewhat chastened to not have the passing illuminati reference per above, but it's also good to know and accept (and even agree with) one's place in the world.
 
No need for chastity (or at least chastening) here. It comes down to discerning just which Illuminati you're referring to. There's the original gang, who started in Bavaria (probably drinking beer at the group's founding) in the late 1700s and grew in import and influence over a relatively short period of time. There were dustups with Rosicrucians and the group was blamed for the French Revolution, but by the early 1800s they'd self-destructed due to infighting, hubris, and lack of effective leadership corralling the membership and getting them to shut up about the organization. The fact that there were all these members of a "secret society" boasting about the group and the behind-the-scenes power the membership represented didn't play well among the public, resulting in the demise of the group and the coining of the phrase (later popularized by Groucho Marx: "I don't want to be in any cub that would have me as a member."

And so with that attitude, the OG Illuminati fell into disunity and ceased sponsoring stag nights and "Pick the Next President" parties.

But later on, looking for someone to blame for disastrous global events, the idea of there being Illuminati was picked back up, dusted off, and put back into the game as yet another boogieman to fear. Conspiracy theories always have a home, particularly in the USA. I mean, could the Illuminati really have been behind The Great Depression? The HUAC? the great Flying Saucer coverup? Martha Stewart & Snoop Dog hooking up? The Kennedy assassination (both of them)? That's a lotta conspiracy to hang on a group that's been defunct for 200+ years.

Get serious, those guys were long gone and their treasury would have been tapped out way back ago. They probably couldn't afford robes or incense (or even beer). Personally, I think the concept was picked up by the Star Chamber in the 1920s which was then subsumed by the Trilatera Commission and those guys are the tip of the iceberg when it comes to the secret societies in charge of everything. So keep an eyeball peeled (isn't that the WORST saying?) for any bowling balls of information that might be rolling down the lane in your direction.

-Eden (wisdom is where you glean it)
 
C'mon, Eden. Where are the references to Church of the Subgenius, Principia Discordia and/or Robert Anton Wilson? I expect more of you.

Mark "CultBoi" Lipton
 
originally posted by MLipton:
C'mon, Eden. Where are the references to Church of the Subgenius, Principia Discordia and/or Robert Anton Wilson? I expect more of you.

Mark "CultBoi" Lipton
Speaking of Illuminati . . .
 
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