The light, delicate, elegant red thread

originally posted by Ken Schramm:
Yeah, Rougeard has gotten plenty spendy, but it seems like an outlier.
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sure although the top cuvees from Collier, Yvonne, Closiers, Guiberteau, Dittiere have departed the comfort zone of proportionate pricing a while ago.

that's all Saumur; there are fairly egregious examples in Anjou, but I can't think of the names atm as the stuff is off my radar.
 
originally posted by Jonathan Loesberg:
originally posted by Pavel Tchichikov:
originally posted by BJ:
Wow, I just don't think of Bourgueil as light.
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explain please
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I'm sure BJ can explain, but I'm not sure it needs explanation. He doesn't think Bourgueil is a light red. My wife doesn't like brussel sprouts. Many people on the board don't like CdP. These things happen.
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Yeah, for what I think of as "light", I can't think of a Loire CF that fits that...Loire Pinot yes...for me Loire CF more in the "medium" category.

I don't think this comes down to just traditionally light varietals. For example, I have had southern Rhones from Chateau des Tours that I thought of as light (and, btw, absolutely loved them).
 
Lame Delisle Boucard got a shout out above. I was previously unfamiliar, but recently picked up a small parcel of '14 Prestige...really excellent, in a very "classic" Rosenthalian sort of way..
 
originally posted by BJ:
Lame Delisle Boucard got a shout out above. I was previously unfamiliar, but recently picked up a small parcel of '14 Prestige...really excellent, in a very "classic" Rosenthalian sort of way..
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didn't realize it was still in the market, will try to pick one up

as it happens, i only started piling them up since the 2015 vintage! fyi a 1976 that a generous friend opened, and which I think is the equivalent of today's "prestige" was in fine form, which didn't exactly hurt the cause

yeah, that's exactly how i distinguish bourgueil with its Rosenthalian character from the more Rabelaisian chinon. Dude.
 
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