2004 Briords and 2001 Bachelet Gevrey-Chambertin VV

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Jay Miller

Jay Miller
The Briords was just as good as on release with perhaps a hair's thickness of further development. Beautifully life-affirming minerality, round chalkiness, great wine.

The nose on the Bachelet is heavenly and the palate is only a little behind that. Shuts down a bit with air so don't decant this one if you're opening it soon. No rush.

If all wines I drank tasted as good as these two I'd be a happy man.
 
originally posted by Jay Miller:
2004 Briords and 2001 Bachelet Gevrey-Chambertin VVThe Briords was just as good as on release with perhaps a hair's thickness of further development. Beautifully life-affirming minerality, round chalkiness, great wine.
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Jay,
Thanks for the update on the Briords. I went long on this wine (for me) as it is a birthyear wine for our son and won't require 4 decades to become approachable. I've kept my hands off up till now on the basis of what I've heard hereabouts, but it sounds like no need to wait much, if at all.

Mark Lipton
 
originally posted by MLipton:
Jay,
Thanks for the update on the Briords. I went long on this wine (for me) as it is a birthyear wine for our son and won't require 4 decades to become approachable. I've kept my hands off up till now on the basis of what I've heard hereabouts, but it sounds like no need to wait much, if at all.
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So that means you didn't really buy it for your son to drink, but rather to toast to your son?
 
originally posted by Rahsaan:
originally posted by MLipton:
Jay,
Thanks for the update on the Briords. I went long on this wine (for me) as it is a birthyear wine for our son and won't require 4 decades to become approachable. I've kept my hands off up till now on the basis of what I've heard hereabouts, but it sounds like no need to wait much, if at all.
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So that means you didn't really buy it for your son to drink, but rather to toast to your son?
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Why do you say that? Is it not possible to do both?

Mark Lipton
 
originally posted by Ian Fitzsimmons:
Briords and Clos de Roche Gamay together form a solid, affordable cellar foundation.
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Though I'll admit 2007 is the first ever vintage of Briords that I haven't bought beyond my sample bottle. A bit high acid even for me.

The 2004 Briords will certainly be better in 20 years but this bottle at least was a joy to drink.
 
originally posted by Rahsaan:
originally posted by Jay Miller: If all wines I drank tasted as good as these two I'd be a happy man.
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So you're not a happy man?

How sad!

Regardless, sounds like fun wines.
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Okay. I'd be a happier man than I would be during those periods when I am drinking wine which is not as good as the aforementioned 2 bottles. Happy now?
 
originally posted by MLipton:
originally posted by Rahsaan:
originally posted by MLipton:
Jay,
Thanks for the update on the Briords. I went long on this wine (for me) as it is a birthyear wine for our son and won't require 4 decades to become approachable. I've kept my hands off up till now on the basis of what I've heard hereabouts, but it sounds like no need to wait much, if at all.
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So that means you didn't really buy it for your son to drink, but rather to toast to your son?
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Why do you say that? Is it not possible to do both?

Mark Lipton
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Well, if you're drinking it now I didn't know how much your son would enjoy it. But I guess if you have enough of a stash to drink now and later then he'll have a chance to enjoy.
 
originally posted by Jay Miller:


The 2004 Briords will certainly be better in 20 years but this bottle at least was a joy to drink.
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I drank a bottle of the 05 Briords last week and it was great, right out of the bottle. The next day, not quite as good.

This is the opposite of my experience with the 04 Briords, which always seems "better" on the second day.

I'm not sure how this correlates with longevity and aging potential of the wine.
 
...I went long on this wine (for me) as it is a birthyear wine for our son and won't require 4 decades to become approachable.
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Do we need to change the adjective to "Liptonian quantities"?
Has a ring to it.

I'm still trying to find a suitable target for 2006 birthyear wines. All the usual suspects (Piedmont, Bordeaux, Germany, Rhone,etc.) all seem to have experienced soft years (as in years that won't be long agers), but because my daughter popped out early in the year, I could say that since 2005's were sleeping in barrels the same time she was in mummy, that those could be suitable replacements.
 
originally posted by MarkS:
...I went long on this wine (for me) as it is a birthyear wine for our son and won't require 4 decades to become approachable.
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Do we need to change the adjective to "Liptonian quantities"?
Has a ring to it.

I'm still trying to find a suitable target for 2006 birthyear wines. All the usual suspects (Piedmont, Bordeaux, Germany, Rhone,etc.) all seem to have experienced soft years (as in years that won't be long agers), but because my daughter popped out early in the year, I could say that since 2005's were sleeping in barrels the same time she was in mummy, that those could be suitable replacements.
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In CdP, Charvin, Pegau and Mourre du Tendre are all capable of getting to age 20 or so without breathing heavily. I would guess that's true of Beaucastel, but I haven't tasted it. 06 isn't as tannic as 05 there, but that doesn't mean it won't age.
 
originally posted by MarkS:
I'm still trying to find a suitable target for 2006 birthyear wines. All the usual suspects (Piedmont, Bordeaux, Germany, Rhone,etc.) all seem to have experienced soft years (as in years that won't be long agers), but because my daughter popped out early in the year, I could say that since 2005's were sleeping in barrels the same time she was in mummy, that those could be suitable replacements.
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I'd disagree on 06 Germans not being long-agers - the wines are inconsistent in a lot of areas, but with the right producers there are some absolutely phenomenal wines that will be (even more) amazing with age and have a lot of acid and balance to match the extracts. From what I've tasted I'd bet that any of Donnhoff's Auslese (and a lot of his Spatlese), Grunhaus Abtsberg Spatlese, Prum as usual (the 06 Graacher Himmelreich Auslese is monumental), Schaefer and Weil will all be worth putting away for a couple of decades. And some of those - Schaefer's Domprobst and a few of the Donnhoffs (Hermannshohle Auslese and Brucke Spatlese in particular) I've even preferred to their '05 counterparts.
Austria was also pretty good in '06 as well.

Cheers,
Salil
 
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