Starter white?

[Dan Donahue]

I'm bringing a starter white to an off-line tomorrow. I want to bring something off the beaten track and have narrowed it down to:

'01 Radikon Ribolla
'02 Huet Demi LHL
'06 Giacosa Arneis
'98 Hirtzberger GV Rotes Tor

Which would you pick? The theme is Grenache but there is no restriction on the whites.

 

[SFJoe]

The Hirtzberger is the one that most needs drinking.

 

[Florida Jim]

Arneis is a nice starter.
And while the Hirtzberger needs to be drunk, I think I'd rather have it with food.
Best, Jim

 

[VLM]

originally posted by Dan Donahue:
Starter white?I'm bringing a starter white to an off-line tomorrow. I want to bring something off the beaten track and have narrowed it down to:

'01 Radikon Ribolla
'02 Huet Demi LHL
'06 Giacosa Arneis
'98 Hirtzberger GV Rotes Tor

I'm not quite sure what an off-line is, but I'd start with the Arneis and bring the Hirtzbereger as back-up. Both need to be drunk, as do I.

Which would you pick? The theme is Grenache

YIKES!!!

but there is no restriction on the whites.

No restrictions. Phwew, really dodged a bullet.

 

[VLM]

originally posted by SFJoe:
The Hirtzberger is the one that most needs drinking.

Actually, now that I think about it. All three but the Huet are in need of drinking.

I don't buy the Orange wine and aging thing.

 

[Salil Benegal]

Bring the Hirtzberger. Are you planning to serve blind to keep with the theme?

 

[MarkS]

I don't buy the Orange wine and aging thing.

definately...

And I wouldn't want to start out with a demi-sec Huet...

I 2nd or 3rd the Hirtzberger or the arneis, especially the arneis in summer.

 

[Levi Dalton]

originally posted by VLM:

I don't buy the Orange wine and aging thing.

Did you not catch my experiment at Tales of the Cocktail? The one that conclusively proved through diode attachments that orange can age?

The Radikon '01 Ribolla is waay young. And needs time. And will age.

The Giacosa Arneis is particularly floral in the 2006 rendition, which I liked about it. It's too expensive for what it is, but whatever.

 

[VLM]

originally posted by Levi Dalton:

originally posted by VLM:

I don't buy the Orange wine and aging thing.

Did you not catch my experiment at Tales of the Cocktail? The one that conclusively proved through diode attachments that orange can age?

The Radikon '01 Ribolla is waay young. And needs time. And will age.

You have no evidence for that. You have an educated guess, but so do I.

The Giacosa Arneis is particularly floral in the 2006 rendition, which I liked about it. It's too expensive for what it is, but whatever.

I think of Arneis as a wine to be consumed in its exuberant youth. I was thinking that the 2006 might be on the back slope of that.

 

[Levi Dalton]

originally posted by VLM:

I think of Arneis as a wine to be consumed in its exuberant youth. I was thinking that the 2006 might be on the back slope of that.

Fairly high tannins are involved for a white.

But in general, yes.

 

[mark meyer]

originally posted by VLM:

originally posted by Levi Dalton:

originally posted by VLM:

I don't buy the Orange wine and aging thing.

Did you not catch my experiment at Tales of the Cocktail? The one that conclusively proved through diode attachments that orange can age?

The Radikon '01 Ribolla is waay young. And needs time. And will age.

You have no evidence for that. You have an educated guess, but so do I.

The Giacosa Arneis is particularly floral in the 2006 rendition, which I liked about it. It's too expensive for what it is, but whatever.

I think of Arneis as a wine to be consumed in its exuberant youth. I was thinking that the 2006 might be on the back slope of that.

I had the Arneis recently and thought it was much better than last summer when it was either shutdown or still had travel shock.

 

[Levi Dalton]

originally posted by VLM:

originally posted by Levi Dalton:

originally posted by VLM:

I don't buy the Orange wine and aging thing.

The Radikon '01 Ribolla is waay young. And needs time. And will age.

You have no evidence for that. You have an educated guess, but so do I.

I'll meet you one decade from today on top of the Empire State Building. I'll wear an orange rose in my lapel so that you will know me. Then we can discuss who was right.

 

[VLM]

originally posted by Levi Dalton:

originally posted by VLM:

originally posted by Levi Dalton:

originally posted by VLM:

I don't buy the Orange wine and aging thing.

The Radikon '01 Ribolla is waay young. And needs time. And will age.

You have no evidence for that. You have an educated guess, but so do I.

I'll meet you one decade from today on top of the Empire State Building. I'll wear an orange rose in my lapel so that you will know me. Then we can discuss who was right.

I'll wear a monkey-suit.

 

[Dan Donahue]

I'm going with the Arneis and the GV; I'll save the orange wine to experiment with (I have a few bottles). It is shaping up for a fun night, although as usual there is going to be way too much wine. I will end up spitting or dumping a lot of good wine.

I've sampled the '06 Arneis 4 or 5 times (including last month) and it is holding up nicely so far.

 

[MarkS]

I'll meet you one decade from today on top of the Empire State Building. I'll wear an orange rose in my lapel so that you will know me. Then we can discuss who was right.

aww, and we can make a movie of that meeting! 'When Nathan met Levi' or 'Sleepless in Collio' or something like that.

(put me in the orange wines don't age camp; not that they won't keep: just that they've had all the oxygen damn well beated out of them that I doubt they will "improve")

 

[Levi Dalton]

originally posted by MarkS:

(put me in the orange wines don't age camp; not that they won't keep: just that they've had all the oxygen damn well beated out of them that I doubt they will "improve")

How do you feel about the ageability of Lopez whites?

 

[SFJoe]

originally posted by Levi Dalton:

originally posted by MarkS:

(put me in the orange wines don't age camp; not that they won't keep: just that they've had all the oxygen damn well beated out of them that I doubt they will "improve")

How do you feel about the ageability of Lopez whites?

It's all a myth.

 

[scottreiner]

originally posted by SFJoe:

originally posted by Levi Dalton:

originally posted by MarkS:

(put me in the orange wines don't age camp; not that they won't keep: just that they've had all the oxygen damn well beated out of them that I doubt they will "improve")

How do you feel about the ageability of Lopez whites?

It's all a myth.

trini lopez is very real and aging quite well, thank you...

 

[MLipton]

originally posted by scottreiner:

originally posted by SFJoe:

originally posted by Levi Dalton:

originally posted by MarkS:

(put me in the orange wines don't age camp; not that they won't keep: just that they've had all the oxygen damn well beated out of them that I doubt they will "improve")

How do you feel about the ageability of Lopez whites?

It's all a myth.

trini lopez is very real and aging quite well, thank you...

J Lo also appears to be aging... er... well, though she might bristle at being labeled white. She is, after all, just Jenny from the block.

Mark Lipton

 

[Salil Benegal]

So how did the Hirtzberger show?

(Also I noticed from Mel's pics that there was an 08 Jemrose Viognier, which was really great to see given that Jim lost a fair bit of that crop early to frost... hope that wine showed well)