Steinberger on fraud and the Royals

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Joe Dougherty
Nice article on fraud in wine by Mike Steinberger in Slate.

It leans on Koch's investigations and lawsuits pretty heavily, and doesn't address the next bit of the story (as I suspect), which is mass produced more recent vintage fraud. But that's a hard one to do.
 
originally posted by Thor:
Wow. That's some piece.
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Yup.

I did a thing at Crush with Oliveros' ex-wife, the lovely Savanah Samson. It was for some HD TV show that never aired because she was such an idiot, it could not be believed. But she told me she had 1900 Margaux out of a magnum. {Envy Emoticon}
 
Wow; you wonder if the decision to make the site Chris never could find members only was made with the information about the deposition and forthcoming journalistic coverage in mind.

And enquiring minds want to know if Royal's Trimbach sourcing was kosher...
 
David from Switzerland got it all, without needing to resort to Rodenstock or Royal. Spirited it away in the middle of the night with a Volvo, if I've heard the story right.
 
I'm always amazed by the talent of high class con men.
I remember one particular individual who spent over 18 months "salting the landscape" as they say at a country club I belonged to in LA. Drove a beautiful Mercedes, a golf bag that must have cost $400.00,giving my son $50.00 for carrying his bag for nine holes,(this was over 20 years ago) and just was mr all around big spender & good sport. Lost in gin rummy and poker games. Eventually he let the pigeons in on a land deal on the big island of Hawaii that had to be kept "hush "hush". The group of professional people became the proud owners of a large piece of worthless volcanic land. Fabulous con man.
Thanks Joe for the article.
 
originally posted by Lyle Fass:

I did a thing at Crush with Oliveros' ex-wife, the lovely Savanah Samson. It was for some HD TV show that never aired because she was such an idiot, it could not be believed.
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Shocking! I always had assumed women were attracted to Ms. Samson's profession for the Algonquin Round Table-style intellectual salons, and not just because they were molested by their uncles.
 
I used to work at a place that pushed the Samson Falanghina, and it always made for uncomfortable interactions with customers that tried to "wink wink, nudge nudge" me every time they saw the bottle. Ugh.
 
originally posted by Lou Kessler:
Fascinating articleI'm always amazed by the talent of high class con men.
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Yes, although after a certain point you always wonder - isn't this as much work as legal activities? The part that fascinates me, given that these vinous hoaxsters held all kinds of tastings,is what sort of concoction did they put in these bottles? It couldn't be obviously young or crappy or completely out of character.
 
they wanted the wine that scored the porker 1000 globs.

the royals delivered exactly that.

wtf?

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Wow.

Ok, let's say that, hypothetically speaking of course, one wants to garner 100 points from RP for a fake 1921 Petrus and then sell the same wine to collectors, what wine do you put in the bottle?
 
If I followed the article, serve the genuine article to Parker, who rates it. Then, per Billionaire's vinegar, you doctor up some replicate bottles using, perhaps, more recent, accessible vintages from the same producer as the base.
 
As I understand it, Parker's tie to the scandal is merely that he rated a Rodenstock wine with lots and lots of points. Which only shows that he likes wine Rodenstock bottles. Of course, he occasionally indicated his belief based on his taste that the wine was what it purported to be, but that claim is so absurdly unwarranted as to be not worth taking seriously. When the astronomer in Rasselas claimed to control the weather, it was laughable, but not scandalous.

From this thread's title, I thought we would be revisiting the incident involving George Brett, pine tar and the Yankees.
 
originally posted by Ian Fitzsimmons:
If I followed the article, serve the genuine article to Parker, who rates it. Then, per Billionaire's vinegar, you doctor up some replicate bottles using, perhaps, more recent, accessible vintages from the same producer as the base.
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Are you sure you wouldn't go for a much more recent vintage of Petrus cut with maybe a lighter, older more off-vintage Petrus for RP scoring?
 
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