dumber question than sasha's

VLM

VLM
Is there any point in opening 2005 Roilette Tardive now-ish? Knowing that I like my wines younger than Jay or Joe.
 
Yes. Someone brought a bottle to dinner the other day and it was great. Young, natch.

Hold your mags, though.
 
originally posted by SFJoe:
Yes. Someone brought a bottle to dinner the other day and it was great. Young, natch.

Hold your mags, though.

Just the sort of advice I was looking for.

Thanks.
 
"drink and hold" is always the standard advice here, no?
The 2002 tardive I believe is ready to drink.
 
Although this thread tugs at my heart, I did have a bottle of 2005 recently that was beautifully in stride.

Start drinking without fear and pour a little bit out for those who aren't here.
 
originally posted by VLM:
Although this thread tugs at my heart, I did have a bottle of 2005 recently that was beautifully in stride.

Start drinking without fear and pour a little bit out for those who aren't here.

Indeed it does. It brought back the memory of a very good dinner at Craft sitting at the bar with SFJoe; we drank a couple of bottles of tardive (the 05, I believe, but I'm not 100% sure). However, I prefer the regular, rather than the tardive every vintage. So, I opened a bottle of 2014 reg when I read this. It was the best one I've had in a long time.
 
originally posted by BJ:
I've been sitting on several cases of primo 05's...so you think it's time?

Which ones are we talking? I haven't had one for a few months now, but my 05 Tardives are in a pretty good place. No rush, but they are drinking well. Others are predictably further along.

2006 Lapierre from Magnum really could have used a bunch of air. Should have held it longer.
 
originally posted by BJ:
I've been sitting on several cases of primo 05's...so you think it's time?
I drank an 05 Desvignes Javernieres semi recently and it was pretty good but maybe still a bit tight.
I think it's ok to try now but will likely improve with more time?
This particular wine may be the poster child for backwards 2005 Beaujolais.
 
Last night perhaps I was being dumber by opening a bottle of 2015 Yvon Métras Moulin-à-Vent 13.5%. But it was elegant, deftly structured, and already showing some layers. The signature was decidedly carbonic, unlike some uppity MaV's that suffer from pinot envy, but as carbonic pinots have become more common, that objection, nursed since the late 90s, has become more withdrawable.
 
originally posted by Oswaldo Costa:
Last night perhaps I was being dumber by opening a bottle of 2015 Yvon Métras Moulin-à-Vent 13.5%. But it was elegant, deftly structured, and already showing some layers. The signature was decidedly carbonic, unlike some uppity MaV's that suffer from pinot envy, but as carbonic pinots have become more common, that objection, nursed since the late 90s, has become more withdrawable.

It seems to me that there are two separate schools of vinification in the Beaujolais: Chauvin-esque and Burgundian. I'd place JP Brun, Roilette and Bruno Debize in that latter category and many of the "usual suspects" in the former. As far as which is preferable, I'll retreat to the "horses for courses" response.

Mark Lipton
 
originally posted by Marc D:
originally posted by BJ:
I've been sitting on several cases of primo 05's...so you think it's time?
I drank an 05 Desvignes Javernieres semi recently and it was pretty good but maybe still a bit tight.
I think it's ok to try now but will likely improve with more time?
This particular wine may be the poster child for backwards 2005 Beaujolais.

I think of the Javernieres to be maybe the longest haul Beaujolais, period. Much more of a Burgundian aging curve, given, in part, their (I assume) Burgundian vinification.

I don't think of Roilette as Burgundian. Big foudres/pieces. Brun is a range, mostly concrete tank.

Time for a visit to storage and a report. Marc, you in Jet City any time soon?
 
Let's do it up. I am drinking an 03 Desvignes Py in your honor, and I'm actually enjoying it quite a bit.
 
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