CWD: '04 Clos des Allees

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Mark Lipton
Tonight, through a comic sequence of miscommunication, two friends stopped by to help our son Andrew celebrate his sixth birthday. I rushed home from work with pizza in hand to find a bottle of 2004 Luneau-Papin Muscadet SeM VV 'Clos des Alles'* chilled and open on the sideboard. Rich, deep, expressive, with luscious minerality and vibrant citrus notes. Lovely, refreshing and just the thing to deal with unexpected company. Next year's birthday will see the '04 Clos des Briords as we gradually work our way through birth year wines.

Mark Lipton

* Sorry to hear that yours was corked, Slaton, but happy [redacted] birthday anyway.
 
True. I don't see anything wrong with Muscadet and pizza. Especially because I often put a lot of parsley on my pizza when basil is not in season.
 
I have yet to be convinced by New Haven pizza. But then I've only had it once in New Haven proper. And even though I was supposed to be at one of the better spots, I guess I should keep an open mind.

I just remember it being very greasy. (And I'm not particularly afraid of oil).
 
originally posted by Rahsaan:
True. I don't see anything wrong with Muscadet and pizza. Especially because I often put a lot of parsley on my pizza when basil is not in season.
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This pizza had banana peppers and onions, which went quite well with the Muscadet. Just for insurance (and because one of the two guests doesn't drink much white wine) we also had the '04 Ridge Geyserville open, which proved to be less oaky and more structured than any Geezer since the '99. Frankly, I think that the Muscadet was a better fit with the pizza, though the Geezer may have been marginally better than the Muscadet with the chocolate cake that followed [insert emoticon of choice here].

Mark Lipton
 
Yes, it's greasy. Weren't you prepared in advance? Apologies for whoever improperly advised you. It's New Haven pizza. It's not Naples pizza, or Rome pizza. It's New Haven pizza. It's greasy.
 
I probably wasn't properly prepared. And I probably wasn't with the right crowd. It was a grad school recruitment visit and I insisted on being shown the 'famous' New Haven pizza. Needless to say, they didn't quite know what to make of me.

(FWIW, I made a similar request on my recruitment visit to Chicago and also came away unimpressed with their pizza, although I've become a bit more positive on subsequent visits).

Moral of the story, don't let random academics introduce you to local cuisine.

Will make a point of stopping in New Haven again at some point, better prepared.
 
As long as you know you're not going to get pizza, Chicago "pizza" is a fascinating thing. If it's good. Which it only occasionally is.

New Haven white/clam pizza is this strange thing that...well, I don't know how to classify it. Personally, I think beer is better than wine. Something about the grease + beer combo makes more sense than the alternatives. But really, once every three years is about all I'm able to get to/through New Haven, so the locals might have better advice.
 
originally posted by Thor:
As long as you know you're not going to get pizza, Chicago "pizza" is a fascinating thing. If it's good. Which it only occasionally is.

New Haven white/clam pizza is this strange thing that...well, I don't know how to classify it. Personally, I think beer is better than wine. Something about the grease + beer combo makes more sense than the alternatives. But really, once every three years is about all I'm able to get to/through New Haven, so the locals might have better advice.
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Bubbles?
 
originally posted by Rahsaan:
I probably wasn't properly prepared. And I probably wasn't with the right crowd. It was a grad school recruitment visit and I insisted on being shown the 'famous' New Haven pizza. Needless to say, they didn't quite know what to make of me.

(FWIW, I made a similar request on my recruitment visit to Chicago and also came away unimpressed with their pizza, although I've become a bit more positive on subsequent visits).

Moral of the story, don't let random academics introduce you to local cuisine.

Will make a point of stopping in New Haven again at some point, better prepared.
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Most of my colleagues think that Pizza is a brand owned by Dominoes. And we have 2 Amys around the corner.
 
originally posted by Jonathan Loesberg:
Most of my colleagues think that Pizza is a brand owned by Dominoes. And we have 2 Amys around the corner.
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Sorry to hear that. Must make for some interesting conversation dynamics when (and if) food becomes a topic of conversation.
 
originally posted by Jonathan Loesberg:
originally posted by Rahsaan:
I probably wasn't properly prepared. And I probably wasn't with the right crowd. It was a grad school recruitment visit and I insisted on being shown the 'famous' New Haven pizza. Needless to say, they didn't quite know what to make of me.

(FWIW, I made a similar request on my recruitment visit to Chicago and also came away unimpressed with their pizza, although I've become a bit more positive on subsequent visits).

Moral of the story, don't let random academics introduce you to local cuisine.

Will make a point of stopping in New Haven again at some point, better prepared.
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Most of my colleagues think that Pizza is a brand owned by Dominoes. And we have 2 Amys around the corner.
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If I were you, I'd weigh 700 lbs because I'd eat at 2 Amy's every day.
 
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