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Rahsaan
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2007 Texier Brzme Pergault VV
Suave stoney floral velvet. Very easy to like, in all the right ways.

2007 FX Pichler Grner Veltliner Smaragd M
Intense and focused, but with a light crystal cut. And what a luxurious acid structure. It feels so good, and not just because of the alcohol!

2007 G. Descombes Morgon
One bottle was great. Energetic, lithe, and lively but with enough depth and focus to prevent the tongue from getting lonely. The second bottle started off darker and silkier, altogether promising, but it quickly became more sour around the edges and without as much dimensionality as the first bottle. Will I experiment further?

Two
2009 Domaine Dupeuble Beaujolais
Needs a bunch of air to get going but then the tart-yet-darkish crunchy sucking-candy fruit provides a mouthful of pleasure.

2009 JP Brun Cte de Brouilly
Silky and tart. The order depends on the sip. Either way, you're having fun.

2009 Foillard Morgon Cte du Py
Gorgeous. What I have been waiting for and it did not disappoint. All the flavors and aromas you would expect, and was surprisingly light and accessible at first (went swimmingly in the mouth with a mushroom, oregano and taleggio pizza). But with air it got thicker and deeper and filled in some tannins around the edges. Cant wait to drink more.

2009 Huet Vouvray Le Haut Lieu Sec
Citrus-tinged minerals with a crystalline yet generous structure. Intense and good.
 
I thought the Dupeuble was nice for current drinking, though I didn't get much candy on it. Will have to buy some Foillard now, having revisited the 07 over Thanksgiving. Thanks for the notes.
 
I didn't get much candy on it
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Candy is a very broad category!

I wasn't calling the fruit 'candied' in the derogatory sense. It just reminded me of some of the sucking candies I used to eat as a child (if I have to name names, I'll go with grape or some form of raspberry Jolly Ranchers, but don't hold me to that).
 
originally posted by Rahsaan:
2007 Texier Brzme Pergault VV
Suave stoney floral velvet. Very easy to like, in all the right ways.
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I'll go a little stronger on this one and call it insanely fabulous. Less structured and densely-proportioned than the '06, although the three bottles I've drank have displayed a trend toward tightening up.
 
When I first tried the '09 Dupeuble last summer it was close to my personal threshold for ripeness. Jello and Jolly rancher candy kind of fruit.
It has settled down a bit since then, and a recent bottle was more enjoyable.

Agree about the '07 Pergault. We opened a bottle last night and at cool cellar temp it was very smoky, meaty, and stony. As it warmed the fruit showed up a little bit, but lots of mineral and savory flavors persisted. It is a hell of a wine. I look forward to seeing how it ages, the structure is certainly there.
 
I've had both of your bottles of descombes. No, I am not experimenting further, I leave that to the monkey.
Regarding Pergault, I agree with the accolates, and I have notes from both barrel and demi-muid to further strengthen the case. But did you guys not find that, after some remarkable aromatic delights of fruits, flowers and minerals and a great yet brief sap on entrance, this wine comes in with formidable acidity which, within minutes, causes a major shut down for at least a day?
Great description of Brun CdB, except that my "silky" or "tart" depends on the bottle rather than the sip.
Sat through entire 09 huet line-up recently, and liked this one a lot. (Also had it from half bottle earlier). Prefer it to le mont at the moment, which has just a bit of size to deal with. There is a wonderful phenolic core here, and a clarity about the ripeness.
 
originally posted by .sasha:
Regarding Pergault, I agree with the accolates, and I have notes from both barrel and demi-muid to further strengthen the case. But did you guys not find that, after some remarkable aromatic delights of fruits, flowers and minerals and a great yet brief sap on entrance, this wine comes in with formidable acidity which, within minutes, causes a major shut down for at least a day?
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I've only had one bottle and was (pleasantly) surprised at how accessible it was over many hours. I plan to open another this weekend and am curious to see how it shows. Thanks for the warning.

Sat through entire 09 huet line-up recently
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Must have been tough!
 
Sasha, about the Pergault, my bottle was extremely cold when first opened, and it wasn't until it warmed up over an hour or two that I was able to coax out that sap you mention. It was there, but fleeting. I left about a half bottle for tonight, but my wife and son got to it last night, so I can't say if it opened back up or not.
 
originally posted by .sasha:
Regarding Pergault...did you guys not find that, after some remarkable aromatic delights of fruits, flowers and minerals and a great yet brief sap on entrance, this wine comes in with formidable acidity which, within minutes, causes a major shut down for at least a day?
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Opening another bottle, I would have to say 'Yes'.

But it's still lovely stuff.
 
originally posted by .sasha:
Regarding Pergault, I agree with the accolates, and I have notes from both barrel and demi-muid to further strengthen the case. But did you guys not find that, after some remarkable aromatic delights of fruits, flowers and minerals and a great yet brief sap on entrance, this wine comes in with formidable acidity which, within minutes, causes a major shut down for at least a day?
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As I said, three bottles down, each tighter than the last. Not opening any others for the time being, but clearly I don't own enough. It is destined for greatness.
 
clearly I don't own enough.
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Agreed. Although in my case that could be said about way too many wines. Which is either a good or a bad thing (or both), depending on how one sees the world.
 
My personal experience with Pergault (now PergauD - Because of some obscure Bordeaux negociant who owns a trade mark Chateau Pergault...) is that it usually closes down during the winter following the bottling. Here we are.
As .sasha pointed out a while ago, this wine is an assemblage of 228l barrels and 500l demi_muids, the wine coming from the barrels tasting much more open right before bottling. This might explain why the wine tastes upfront for a few months after bottling. But remember this is a very traditional wine (whole cluster, no fining, no racking) that will hopefully give its total potential after some aging.

The closed phase lasts for about... I don't have any idea!
2003 tasted almost dead after tasting like an alcohol and tannins during 3 whole years. It is the best Pergault to drink now along at least from 750ml.
2004 from magnums is my fave though...
 
originally posted by Rahsaan:
Two VintagesOne
2007 Texier Brzme Pergault VV
Suave stoney floral velvet. Very easy to like, in all the right ways.
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Great.

2007 FX Pichler Grner Veltliner Smaragd M
Intense and focused, but with a light crystal cut. And what a luxurious acid structure. It feels so good, and not just because of the alcohol!
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Hmm. Unexpected.

2007 G. Descombes Morgon
One bottle was great. Energetic, lithe, and lively but with enough depth and focus to prevent the tongue from getting lonely. The second bottle started off darker and silkier, altogether promising, but it quickly became more sour around the edges and without as much dimensionality as the first bottle. Will I experiment further?
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I had a bottle of this at lunch Friday that was outstanding. In fact, all the 2007s from Descombes have been great, IME. So I'd error on the experiment further side, but there are a lot of wines out there to try.

Dunno about 2009s.
 
originally posted by VLM:
originally posted by Rahsaan:
2007 FX Pichler Grner Veltliner Smaragd M
Intense and focused, but with a light crystal cut. And what a luxurious acid structure. It feels so good, and not just because of the alcohol!
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Hmm. Unexpected.
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In what way? You would have expected it to suck? Be shut down?
 
originally posted by Rahsaan:
originally posted by VLM:
originally posted by Rahsaan:
2007 FX Pichler Grner Veltliner Smaragd M
Intense and focused, but with a light crystal cut. And what a luxurious acid structure. It feels so good, and not just because of the alcohol!
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Hmm. Unexpected.
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In what way? You would have expected it to suck? Be shut down?
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Big, sloppy, and gross. Surprised it was so elegant. Although I have heard that the wines are a bit more restrained these days.
 
I was wondering myself. Didn't really know what to expect from this 'big' bottling. But even with diverse palates, although it was ripe and intense I find it hard to believe that anyone would call this bottle sloppy or gross.
 
originally posted by Rahsaan:
originally posted by .sasha:
Regarding Pergault...did you guys not find that, after some remarkable aromatic delights of fruits, flowers and minerals and a great yet brief sap on entrance, this wine comes in with formidable acidity which, within minutes, causes a major shut down for at least a day?
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Opening another bottle, I would have to say 'Yes'.

But it's still lovely stuff.
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I bought some of the Pergault today on the basis of the discussion here, untasted, since there doesn't seem to be much left. Leap of faith.

Who could resist 12.5% old-vine N. Rhone Syrah made by a guy who posts here?
 
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