Moselle (FR)

Levi Dalton

Levi Dalton
Has anyone had any experience with French wines from the Moselle VDQS? I saw one recently on a retail shelf and was curious. I probably should have bought it just to see. But perhaps someone knows if I should make a return trip to the store?
 
Chteau de Vaux makes excellent pinot noir. I've only had them on the young side, but they're extremely racy and vivid, with good cut and fruit. Better than other cold pinots such as Sancerre.
 
Only horrid ones with friends in the region, but I have no idea what their selection process was; I suspect "stump the American" was about the extent of it.
 
Sorry, Thor, but you sound like the high rollers who hate Loire. There are interesting producers everywhere now.

Worst wine of my life: vin gris from the neighbor in the Berry.

VDQS Chteaumeillant has two good producers now, though.
 
Sorry, Thor, but you sound like the high rollers who hate Loire. There are interesting producers everywhere now.

Sometimes, Sharon, it's like you must have placed a magazine article over the screen and read/responded to that, rather than anything I actually wrote, for all the coherence this has with what I said.
 
Okay.

Then let's review from the admittedly biased perspective of the guy who actually wrote the sentence in question:

Only horrid ones with friends in the region, but I have no idea what their selection process was; I suspect "stump the American" was about the extent of it.

Extracting the relevant info:

1) I've only had bad examples.

2) Those examples were selected by friends who live in various cities and villages in the Lorraine, whose knowledge of the best and worst of the region is unknown to me, but -- and this is additional info -- based on their selection criteria for other wine types, I suspect is not based on a careful in situ assessment of the available producers.

3) Based on the admittedly biased experience of having tasted these wines in their presence and talking about these wines with them afterwards, it seems clear to me that their method of choosing is not a qualitative one, but rather for the amusement of blind-tasting the American on a wine they don't themselves drink. Further evidence for this is that we've never finished the bottle after said blind tastings, and instead have moved on to other wines. From this, I feel I can reasonably conclude that a perception of high quality is not the reason they've selected the wines I've had poured for me.

4) If there are good wines from the region, and I've no reason to dispute that there are, I've not tasted them. I've also no reason to know whether or not my friends believe there to be good wines from the region (though several of them are actually visiting us this week, so I could ask them if you'd like).

Thus, you can imagine my surprise when I read that I've dismissed the wines of the region as uninteresting (and with a nice bit of snark comparing me to "high rollers who hate Loire," whatever that's supposed to mean in this case). I've done nothing of the sort. I've specifically dismissed only the wines that my friends have poured for me as "horrid," and as detailed above, I believe that to be the reason they've poured them for me in the first place.

How one interprets that as a blanket dismissal of the quality of any untasted wine from the region escapes me, but maybe you could explain it. Use small words; apparently I have trouble with English.
 
These are in the Meurthe-et-Moselle department, on the right bank of the river, and there are a lot of superb wines coming from this region. Wonderful with a Quiche Loraine.

The wines used to be problematic before global warming, but now rich maturation.

There are only 110 hectares in AOC and they are rare to find though. I particularly recommend Michel Goujot and his natural Toul.
 
"it's like you must have placed a magazine article over the screen and read/responded to that, rather than anything I actually wrote, for all the coherence this has with what I said."

Wait a minute, this sounds remarkably like someone else. Could it be that this is a pseudonym for the one, the only, the man we know and love, Mr. "Opinionated About"?
 
My God, do you remember Bob Lanier?

I used to watch him play at Canisius College.

So did Florida Jim and the other University of Buffalo alumni on the boards.
 
originally posted by Joe Dressner:
My God, do you remember Bob Lanier?

I used to watch him play at Canisius College.

So did Florida Jim and the other University of Buffalo alumni on the boards.

Despite seeing him play occasionally, I mostly remember his shoe size, which was reported to be size 36 if memory serves.

Mark Lipton
 
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