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Jeff Grossman

Jeff Grossman
By the time I left there was a roaring crowd.

People and bottles.

attendees: SFJoe, Sharon, .sasha, Alex, Jay, Jeff, Randy+Barb, George+Anna, Craig

Fuligni 1988 Brunello - beautiful, a point

Ch. Branaire 1995 St-Julien - also drinking well, maybe a little too old

Foillard 2007 Morgon "Cuvee 3.14" - young but excellent, stones and wet earth and none of that bubble-gum thing

Ballatore NV "Gran Spumante" - a 30-year-old bottle; sherried, of course; undrinkable, of course; it's a monument to what an insipid wine it was to begin with that it is only mildly awful today

Torres 1982 Gran Coronas Reserva Black Label - a tinny note blows off after about 10 minutes, dancing, lilting texture, cranberry-ish

Camus-Bruchon 2008 Bourgogne - deep cherry, from a traditional house in Cotes de Beaune

La Pousse d'Or 2000 Volnay 1er "Clos de la Bousse d'Or" - opinion is divided on this wine (Jay likes it, most others think it stinks of wood)

Nigl 1997 Veltliner-Privat Senftenberger Piri - lovely

Huet 1989 Vouvray "Le Mont" "Debut Presse" - SFJoe takes one look at the label and asks Jay, "Why are you opening wine like that for the likes of us?"; amazingly solid acidity, heavenly

More were being opened as I departed.

ETA: Subsequent posts indicate that these wines were also opened:

1982 Drouhin Meursault Perrières
2009 Ganevat Chalasses Marnes Bleues
FX Pichler 2002 Riesling "M"
Chave 1996 Hermitage
Chave 1997 Hermitage
 
originally posted by BJ:
I have some of the Fin du Presse 89. Is that any good? Maybe I should check.

What would really be fun is to get a Debut Presse, Fin de Presse, Temoins, Biodynamique and Constance together and really party hardy. Better yet, a whole 1989 Huet-a-thon with every bottle the domaine made in '89.
 
originally posted by BJ:
I have some of the Fin du Presse 89. Is that any good? Maybe I should check.
Yes, it should be supernal. The Fin contains more phenolics because the juice has been in contact with the skins/pulp/etc during the whole press.
 
1982 Drouhin Meursault Perrières - Thirty years old and with the appropriate blowsily oxidized flavors, though kept in check by its mineral backbone. Needs a blowsy lobster dish, but I kind of liked it anyway. (And shh, don't tell anyone, but so did SFJoe.)

2009 Ganevat Chalasses Marnes Bleues - Zow. Zow, zow. Ping.
 
FX Pichler 2002 Riesling 'M'

A whole lotta wine in that bottle, but all of it in some massive balance. Think I'll see what happens to the next one in 5 years or more.
 
originally posted by Jeff Grossman:
Ballatore NV "Gran Spumante" - a 30-year-old bottle; sherried, of course; undrinkable, of course; it's a monument to what an insipid wine it was to begin with that it is only mildly awful today.

Well put. This was like the void staring back at me.

I also loved that on the neck label, it said, "WARNING - NATURALLY FERMENTED"
 
originally posted by Sharon Bowman:
A couple more1982 Drouhin Meursault Perrières - Thirty years old and with the appropriate blowsily oxidized flavors, though kept in check by its mineral backbone. Needs a blowsy lobster dish, but I kind of liked it anyway. (And shh, don't tell anyone, but so did SFJoe.)

Sssssh.

That Drouhin should have been opened ten years ago, really. It retained remarkable minerality and Meursault-ness, but the oxidation intruded a bit.
 
originally posted by Sharon Bowman:
originally posted by Jeff Grossman:
Ballatore NV "Gran Spumante" - a 30-year-old bottle; sherried, of course; undrinkable, of course; it's a monument to what an insipid wine it was to begin with that it is only mildly awful today.

Well put. This was like the void staring back at me.

I also loved that on the neck label, it said, "WARNING - NATURALLY FERMENTED"
I bet it saw an awful lot of SO2 as well.
 
originally posted by Brad Kane:
originally posted by BJ:
I have some of the Fin du Presse 89. Is that any good? Maybe I should check.

What would really be fun is to get a Debut Presse, Fin de Presse, Temoins, Biodynamique and Constance together and really party hardy. Better yet, a whole 1989 Huet-a-thon with every bottle the domaine made in '89.

If you guys do it, I'll wend my way up for it, hands empty, but mouth open. like the ever hopeful pilgrim I am.
 
originally posted by Sharon Bowman:
A couple more1982 Drouhin Meursault Perrières - Thirty years old and with the appropriate blowsily oxidized flavors, though kept in check by its mineral backbone. Needs a blowsy lobster dish, but I kind of liked it anyway. (And shh, don't tell anyone, but so did SFJoe.)

2009 Ganevat Chalasses Marnes Bleues - Zow. Zow, zow. Ping.

I had a recent wow experience with the Ganevat Chalasses MB. Try it with 24-48 of air. Also, crazy good with a lightly curried, cold mussel soup.
 
originally posted by SFJoe:
That Drouhin should have been opened ten years ago, really. It retained remarkable minerality and Meursault-ness, but the oxidation intruded a bit.
Maybe it just needed some air.
 
originally posted by Bill Lundstrom:
I had a recent wow experience with the Ganevat Chalasses MB. Try it with 24-48 of air. Also, crazy good with a lightly curried, cold mussel soup.

That sounds great.
 
originally posted by Jeff Connell:
originally posted by SFJoe:
That Drouhin should have been opened ten years ago, really. It retained remarkable minerality and Meursault-ness, but the oxidation intruded a bit.
Maybe it just needed some air.
You might be right about that.
 
I played with a similar bottle of 82 drouhin perrieres over the winter, and I did not think it had changed much over a couple of hours. I think it's already been Heredified. But it did do wonderful things with carefully selected and less carefully prepared food. Perhaps extrapolating from that earlier experience, I was a big fan of yesterday's bottle.
 
originally posted by SFJoe:
originally posted by Sharon Bowman:
A couple more1982 Drouhin Meursault Perrières - Thirty years old and with the appropriate blowsily oxidized flavors, though kept in check by its mineral backbone. Needs a blowsy lobster dish, but I kind of liked it anyway. (And shh, don't tell anyone, but so did SFJoe.)

Sssssh.

That Drouhin should have been opened ten years ago, really. It retained remarkable minerality and Meursault-ness, but the oxidation intruded a bit.

Holy shit! Too oxidized for you?? It probably would have killed me.

Reductio ad bonum
Mark
 
originally posted by Brad Kane:
originally posted by BJ:
I have some of the Fin du Presse 89. Is that any good? Maybe I should check.

What would really be fun is to get a Debut Presse, Fin de Presse, Temoins, Biodynamique and Constance together and really party hardy. Better yet, a whole 1989 Huet-a-thon with every bottle the domaine made in '89.

Didn't we have several of the '89s at the DC Huet-a-thon?
 
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