TN: Cellar and a Show (Feb 9, 2013)

Jeff Grossman

Jeff Grossman
Cellar

When I arrive, Ira has laid out bread and cheese, and Gary is poring over maps of southern France, guiding his nephew, Kyle, and his fiancée (Emily?) on honeymoon destinations near Avignon, Luberon, etc. A bit later, SFJoe and Winegrrl show up, too.

Prince Ludovisi 1986 Fiorano - semillon, opened by Ira who says the ones from the 1990s are better than this: oxidized beyond redemption, which is a shame because the texture of the wine is quite nice

Jadot 2005 Pernand-Vergelesses Rouge "Clos de la Croix de Pierre" - here's a nice surprise: a 2005 that is not angry to be opened, nor over-stuffed, this is also quite nice, very red-fruit and deft

Pelissero 2007 Barbaresco Nubiola® - marca registrada? that's unpromising... and, indeed, it tastes like Nestle's Quik (Google reports that this is a blend of six vineyard lots and sees about 40% new oak; tastes much worse than it sounds.)

Vieux Donjon 2003 Chateauneuf-du-Pape - Gary looks dubious that I would open this so young but in honor of the upcoming nuptials (and thinking about the recent thread concerning possible Cambie destruction at this address)... amazingly good: indeed roasty, deepest blue-black fruit, and so much garrigue!, is this the mourvedre talking?, not the least grenache-y, good texture, no need to wait though you certainly could; wish I had a few more bottles of this than I do

Thomas-Labaille 2002 Sancerre "Les Monts Damnés" - as reported elsewhere, this is alive and well, maybe a late note of caramel indicates that it has gone over the hump and started its decline (but seems like years of life ahead)

Thomas-Labaille 2002 Sancerre "Les Monts Damnés" "Cuvee Buster" - more complexity (lemons and tangerines), more acidity, a bit of honey but definitely not caramel, doing fine

Dinner

We went to Amali, a spinoff of partners from Il Cantinori, Periyali, and Bar Six. Good parentage.

And an interesting wine policy: "We do not charge corkage so long as you volunteer to share a glass of a wine that is unique or of exceptional quality. Please email james@amalinyc.com in advance with any questions about this policy."

I spoke to James. His position is that he wishes to encourage wine aficionados because he believes that they are good for the development of the restaurant. As for the wine itself, he would disallow both Yellowtail and Opus One because they are easy to obtain (within a few blocks of the restaurant, too!) whereas an obscure premier cru from an older vintage is something he would encourage.

The menu is half Greek and half Mediterranean. We ordered octopus, pasta with crab, and chicken agrodolce, and later chocolate and coconut desserts. I brought:

Foreau 1996 Vouvray Moelleux - from Winebid; after a few minutes breathing this opens up nicely: golden, pretty chenin fruit, wax and orange and still a bit sweet, not jump up and down good because the acidity was a little mild but satisfactory

Delas Freres 1997 Cote Rotie "La Landonne" - double-decanted for an hour or two; as expected this is nice enough but has no special charm; Jim: "Well, that smells like a barnyard"; there is a bit of shoe polish-y brett, too

James did stop by the table and he was all smiles and good cheer and liked the wines. The other staff, though, need to take their cues from him a bit better: the hostess sat us in the wrong room and the sommelier was stiff and stingy with his conversation (he called the Foreau "medium dry" and spent the rest of the time criticizing our food choices). When we left, we sent the bottles back to the kitchen and, lo, the chef (Nilton) came out to thank us. Perhaps not many people take James up on his offer? Perhaps I was the first person that night to praise the coconut dessert, a cake his mother taught him?

FWIW, Amali has a private room, but the menu is spendy for everyday jeebusing.

Show

A two-person show, "Working on a Special Day" is derived from the 1977 movie "Una Giornata Particolare" starring Sophia Loren and Marcello Mastroianni. The play is 70 minutes long and performed without intermission. The actors were very good, the direction was good, but I think they could have trimmed a few minutes here and there.

Sundry Other Drinking

Descombes 2006 Regnie VV - haven't touched these since 2009, when I thought they were gorgeous; now, this has become dark and sullen and a bit shoe polish-y, too; this is my third vaguely unpleasant experience with Descombes' dirty barrels and I think I may be done aging these

Edmunds St. John 2009 Syrah "Wylie Vineyard" - I really should keep my hands off these for a while; nice young syrah but I'm not letting it reach its potential

Willi Schaefer 2011 Graacher Domprobst Riesling Spatlese #10 - pure and lively and just great
 
My experience of 03 VD has not been as positive as yours, The roasted flavor predominated. One hears very varying reports of the wine, but I expect I bought mine the same place you did yours--CSW.

On 03s generally, I don't think 10 years old is too young. Even the best of them are showing in full prime time and have been for a couple of years or more. I don't think they will make old bones and certainly will not in my cellar.
 
I agree that it is very roasted but it seemed like a pleasant change on Saturday.

I bought mine in Minneapolis, at the suggestion of a fellow who participated in a tasting group there.
 
How is the list at Amali?

Is there a bar?

Isn't it finally time for Newbbiolo®?

That Jadot was a very pleasant surprise.
 
originally posted by Jeff Grossman:

We went to Amali, a spinoff of partners from Il Cantinori, Periyali, and Bar Six. Good parentage.

And an interesting wine policy: "We do not charge corkage so long as you volunteer to share a glass of a wine that is unique or of exceptional quality. Please email james@amalinyc.com in advance with any questions about this policy."

I spoke to James. His position is that he wishes to encourage wine aficionados because he believes that they are good for the development of the restaurant. As for the wine itself, he would disallow both Yellowtail and Opus One because they are easy to obtain (within a few blocks of the restaurant, too!) whereas an obscure premier cru from an older vintage is something he would encourage.

Sounds like it might be a good place for our next Sherry dinner!
 
how was the food? I need to book a table for Wednesday night and that's not far from my hotel (assuming my dining partner agrees).
 
originally posted by maureen:
how was the food? I need to book a table for Wednesday night and that's not far from my hotel (assuming my dining partner agrees).
We liked what we ordered:
- grilled octopus tentacles, dressed with oil + vinegar + lemon
- linguine with crabmeat and shrimp and leeks
- brussels sprouts done up fancy (cheese on top, etc.)
- chicken under a brick, tender and served with a mild sweet + sour
- the chocolate pudding-ish dessert with hazelnuts
- Nilton's mom's coconut cake

Octopus was the best, pasta the least, sprouts rather better than anticipated, and how can you go wrong with roast chicken and chocolate pudding?

Overall good, just a little spendy for what it is. (We also chose it for its convenient location near the theater.)
 
I'm shocked to see the '03 VD even remotely palatable. It may be the most tannic roasted young CdP I ever tasted. Quite amazing it recovered. Could '03 CdP be turning the corner?
 
My experience with 03 CdPs in general is that they will now confirm whatever you first thought about them. If you liked them young for their big, exuberant fruit, as long as you accept a certain flaccidness, they will now seem to have well-developed, big exuberant fruit. If you felt they were roasted, flabby and doomed to an early demise, their present state will confirm you in your predictions (since no one ever thought they would make old bones). I liked many of them for what they were and still do, and the ones I did not--including poster children like Clos des Papes and VD--haven't gotten better for me. On the other hand, even the best of them--for me Pegau and Charvin--will always be amusing renditions of their domaines, but hardly their heights.
 
2003 Rayas is very good in the inimitable house style, if a bit punchy on the alcohol (but no more than Coulée de Serrant, as the bringer of said bottle cheekily pointed out). And of course Eric's own CdP.
 
Jeff

I appreciate your kind words regarding my approach and the food.

I will certainly consider your thoughts on price although we are not at a high price point in our neighborhood. I will speak with the host about the "wrong room" - we sit both of our downstairs dining rooms so there is no wrong room per se. I am not sure what this means but will inquire. There is no excuse for criticism of your selections - it sounds unlike Mike but I wasn't there.

As for the list, I am happy to email it to you or post it should you care to review it when you have more time.

As for the sherry dinner, please email me at james@amalinyc.com to arrange if you would like arrange it. We would be happy to host it.

James@amalinyc.com
 
originally posted by James Mallios, Amali Restauran:
Jeff

I appreciate your kind words regarding my approach and the food.

I will certainly consider your thoughts on price although we are not at a high price point in our neighborhood. I will speak with the host about the "wrong room" - we sit both of our downstairs dining rooms so there is no wrong room per se. I am not sure what this means but will inquire. There is no excuse for criticism of your selections - it sounds unlike Mike but I wasn't there.

As for the list, I am happy to email it to you or post it should you care to review it when you have more time.

As for the sherry dinner, please email me at james@amalinyc.com to arrange if you would like arrange it. We would be happy to host it.

James@amalinyc.com
Hi James. Good detective work.

The 'room thing' comes from some other review of Amali which said that the skylight room is the quieter one. So, sight unseen and sounds unheard, I asked for it when I made the reservation. For the record, we did not find the front room to be excessively noisy, so no harm done. (But I notice when people do or don't listen to me.)

If you put the wine list up on the Amali site I would be happy to look at it. There is something there now that claims to be the wine list but it appears to be more like a scratchpad or To-Do list.

As I've only had one interaction with Mike perhaps I mistook his intent (though not his words).

Prices are in the eye of the beholder, of course!

In any case, we enjoyed our visit to Amali. Thank you for being there.

Jeff
 
Jeff

You are right about the skylight. I remember now. I asked the host to give you a great table and the corner table 30 is considered our second best table so she followed my directive in spirit even though she ignored the letter of yours. I am glad it was still quiet.

As for the wine list, yikes. Im speaking to the webmaster, I know there was work on it recently so maybe he had some weird beta up.
 
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