I loved this on release! I opened a bottle last night and it was maderized. Some browning near the rim and sherry notes on the nose. Is this just "shut down," or does anyone have any recent experience? I highly doubt this is heat damage as I have kept the wine in the same place as the rest of my wine (all fine, hopefully). Please let me know, I will update on how it is this evening.
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Puffeney Poulsard M 2008
- Thread starter wrrntl
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Karin Campbell
Karin Campbell
I think this wine is at best young. I have the 2009 and I liked it much better last year.
Michael Lewis
Michael Lewis
Don't bother with Loye. I have probably had about five bottles of Loye wines at this point, some of which were supposedly ex-cellar releases, and every bottle was either over the hill, corked, or otherwise off. I realize five is not a large sample size, but it's enough for me to conclude that there is just too much other good (Jura) wine out there.
originally posted by wrrntl:
Puffeney Poulsard M 2008I loved this on release! I opened a bottle last night and it was maderized. Some browning near the rim and sherry notes on the nose. Is this just "shut down," or does anyone have any recent experience? I highly doubt this is heat damage as I have kept the wine in the same place as the rest of my wine (all fine, hopefully). Please let me know, I will update on how it is this evening.
Yikes, I have a magnum of 2005 that I've been sitting on. Hopefully, this is a bottle issue.
But as MarkS points out, what the hell does the aging curve look like for poulsard?
originally posted by VLM:
But as MarkS points out, what the hell does the aging curve look like for poulsard?
I've had a few aged bottles of Overnoy Pupillin (most recently when FL Jim kindly opened an '04 for us in Sonoma a couple of years ago) and they seemed just wonderful to me. Suis generis? Dunno.
Mark Lipton
Kay Bixler
Kay Bixler
'04 Puffeney poulsard is in fine shape. I like the way these age and would have to guess that you caught the wine on a bad day, had a flawed bottle or perhaps '08 is just not one for the ages.
Michael Lewis
Michael Lewis
originally posted by MLipton:
originally posted by VLM:
But as MarkS points out, what the hell does the aging curve look like for poulsard?
I've had a few aged bottles of Overnoy Pupillin (most recently when FL Jim kindly opened an '04 for us in Sonoma a couple of years ago) and they seemed just wonderful to me. Suis generis? Dunno.
Mark Lipton
A fellow disorderly recently popped an '02 Overnoy Ploussard while I happened to be in the vicinity, and I can attest that it is still drinking beautifully. But I get the feeling that not all Poulsard ages as well as Overnoy's. The '93 aside, of course (not that I have ever had the "pleasure").
Ignacio Villalgordo
Ignacio Villalgordo
The only ageworthy jura reds that I know of are Jean Bourdy's old library releases. They are available from the winery. Nevertheless the whites are much better. Same happens with Camille Loye's whites
Mark Davis
Mark Davis
A fellow disorderly recently popped an '02 Overnoy Ploussard while I happened to be in the vicinity, and I can attest that it is still drinking beautifully. But I get the feeling that not all Poulsard ages as well as Overnoy's. The '93 aside, of course (not that I have ever had the "pleasure").
Skip it. :)
I also wonder about the aging curve for these wines...How does Puffeney Trousseau/Poulsard age? Ganevat whites? Gahier trousseau?
I've had great luck w/Overnoy from a bunch of vintages, except '93. I don't open the others often enough to have an opinion yet.
...same bad luck w/Loye from the 80s.
-mark
al ehrhardt
al ehrhardt
Just had a very nice 08 Puffeney Trousseau ‘Les Berangères’ at Lula Café in Chicago on Saturday and no signs of premature aging. Only wish we could have enjoyed it in better stems.