Rhys

Florida Jim

Florida Jim
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This was my third (or maybe fourth; CRS, ‘sorry) visit to Rhys. As always, Kevin and Jeff are the consummate hosts; gracious, generous and always ready with answers to both the easy and hard questions. The winery is like no other and the philosophy is clear; ‘let the vineyard speak.’
I could go on at length about all of this, but I’ve done it before.
I would rather tell you a little about what I learned today.

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The vines in their vineyards are becoming old enough to have an influence on the wines. Each of the wines we tasted, whether from bottle or barrel, were distinct, character driven and reflected not only the vineyard but the vintage; clearly. I am not talking about some subtle or esoteric differences; these were noticeable differences, even for the novice taster.
A quick description of how they make chardonnay: press immediately upon receiving the grapes; barrel down, put a fermentation bung in the barrel. Leave it alone. Don’t add anything, don’t stir it, don’t rack it and don’t do anything except top up once the primary fermentation has finished.
Whole cluster fermentations (which are pretty much the norm here) can produce aromas that smell a little green or vegetal at first. If you give these wines time, those aromas will become more like rose petals.
Some wines do not complete malolactic fermentation. They may get part way through, they may finish; but nothing is done to push them through to completion except putting the barrels in a warmer area of the caves. When the wine stops, no matter the amount of malic left, that’s it and that’s the way it gets bottled. Without filtration. And they have never had a wine re-ferment in bottle.
They don’t use pumps. Wine either flows by gravity or by being pushed by gas.
They have several vineyards that are on opposite sides of the San Andreas Fault; some mere feet away from each other. Each has a quite different aromatic and flavor profile.
In the past, I have always been impressed by the chardonnays and pinots at Rhys, but not so much the syrahs. Today, I tasted the 2010 Syrah from the Horseshoe Vineyard I will simply say that Jean-Luc and Jean-Paul Jamet would be proud. It is the most character driven, balanced, complex and delicious syrah I have tasted from the new world.
The 2012 pinots are already showing well from barrel and some of them have just finished ml.

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I always leave these caves considering how I can do a better job with the wines I make. Every time Kevin or Jeff speak about the process and philosophy at Rhys, it is an insight into what they have learned. And they do continue to learn about the vineyards they farm and the process as a whole. The costs of farming here are astronomical; the expenditure in physical plant is daunting; and the effort involved is so labor intensive (foot treading every red twice a day) as to make me wonder why, especially considering the quality of the finished products, they don’t raise their prices.
Fortunately, in the wonderful 2012 vintage (and it appears it will repeat in 2013) the case production will reach about 8,000. In the past, production has been a fraction of that. (And still they are harvesting only about 30/hl per hectare.)
What this means for people on the waiting list, is that some of these wines will be available to them; for those already buying from the mailing list, allocations will be higher. It also means that the quality you expect from Rhys will be every bit as strong as in the past. Perhaps, even stronger, considering the learning curve, the maturing vines, a fine vintage (or two) and the exceptional leap forward in the syrah program.

When folks who love wine dream, they dream of Rhys.

Best, Jim
 
Personally, I have a slight preference for the Skyline, but the Horseshoe is no joke.

These are exceptional wines.

Thanks, Jim.
 
The Skyline to me is their best wine, and it seems the wine geeks have agreed on this, since it seems to be the hardest to find. The most ethereal, gravity defying of the lineup, yet with incredible flavor intensity and length.

The Chardonnay is surprisingly different, with recent vintages seeming to show a softer, more unctuous side. Not quite defying gravity like the ridge-top Pinot Noirs, but full of character and complex flavors in its own style.
 
Well, production and yields are surely the bigger factors in Skyline's scarcity. But it is definitely at least *one of* their best sites. I've found it hard to choose a favorite among the Home, Skyline, and Horseshoe.
 
originally posted by Keith Levenberg:
Well, production and yields are surely the bigger factors in Skyline's scarcity. But it is definitely at least *one of* their best sites. I've found it hard to choose a favorite among the Home, Skyline, and Horseshoe.

For me it's Home and Horseshoe closely followed by Skyline (which I'll grant generally has the best nose). Alpine and Swan are pretty consistently my least favorites though I'll be curious to see if any of this changes when I have the chance to try mature versions.

Family Farm and more recent Bearwallow have been excellent (first vintage of Bearwallow was pretty bad).

And of course I continue to love the Alpine and now Horseshoe chardonnays.
 
Two or three year ago, Jay was kind enough to serve my first Rhys when I visited NY. I readily admit to not appreciating it. Since then, I have had enough (via Craig Potts mostly (who used to claim not to like Pinot Noirs) to understand what the fuss was about. To the extent that I yet know enough to discriminate (and I don't), I had a preference for Bearswallow.

I will now bring down the wrath of the cogniscenti and readily claim that I may just not have tasted carefully enough, but their Chardonnays I have had do not excite me or seem that different from many CA chards. I hope to learn better--but I may not.
 
I'm drinking a lovely bottle of Inman Family 2006 Pinot Noir "Thorn Road Ranch" now. Tannins have subsided a bit which leaves it bright and lusciously dark-fruited. I'm sure you all wanted to know. In this thread.
 
originally posted by Jonathan Loesberg:
Two or three year ago, Jay was kind enough to serve my first Rhys when I visited NY. I readily admit to not appreciating it. Since then, I have had enough (via Craig Potts mostly (who used to claim not to like Pinot Noirs) to understand what the fuss was about. To the extent that I yet know enough to discriminate (and I don't), I had a preference for Bearswallow.
That's quite possibly because it was an early bottle and the quality has gone up dramatically.
 
I tasted a couple of their pinots 2 or 3 years ago? and frankly I was not greatly impressed. From reading and listening I gather the quality has really increased. Now the Arnot Roberts I was immediately smitten with the style and quality.
 
I do think Rhys is getting better and better, but it's not a huge difference. I thought they were pretty great 2 or 3 years ago too. That said, sometimes I do open one and find it too frooty and New Worldy. Usually, this issue goes away with a couple hours in a decanter or just a couple months more in the cellar. So, you just have to think a bit about the best way to handle them, same as any other wine. My current approach is generally not to open any wines from one release until the next release is out (or the one after that) and make sure they have time to sit in a decanter. And that gets pretty great results.
 
originally posted by Cory Cartwright:
originally posted by Jonathan Loesberg:
Two or three year ago, Jay was kind enough to serve my first Rhys when I visited NY. I readily admit to not appreciating it. Since then, I have had enough (via Craig Potts mostly (who used to claim not to like Pinot Noirs) to understand what the fuss was about. To the extent that I yet know enough to discriminate (and I don't), I had a preference for Bearswallow.
That's quite possibly because it was an early bottle and the quality has gone up dramatically.

Since 2008, the wines we tasted on our visit, they've been about as good as any wines from anywhere.

Arnot-Roberts have a pinot noir this fall from the Martin Ray vineyard in Santa Cruz that is pretty exciting.
 
I think the wines have changed dramatically from the early vintages.
My old tasting group opened most of the 2004 and 2005 estate pinot noirs (no Home) a number of years ago, and they seemed to be almost uniformly big, dark and ripe wines with burly, chunky tannins. The 2006s I tasted weren't for me, either.

The farming and winemaking have evolved rapidly, though. The last few vintages have produced striking wines that are more nuanced, with usually restrained ripeness and more sophisticated, finer-grained structures. Even the Family Farm was absolutely delicious in 2008 and 2009 (until the brett issue arose). I did not care for it at all in early vintages.

The syrahs have my full attention now as well. I gave them the cold shoulder at first, but the 2010 Horseshoe syrah at this spring's pickup event was a standout, just a beautifully savory, nuanced wine and a bold statement. 100% whole cluster and no new oak.
 
There were no 2005 estate pinots at Rhys, just Alesia. I thought the 2005 Alesias were pretty elegant and impressive even if not at Rhys level.
In 2004, the Home was miles ahead of both of the other two estate pinots and one of their all-time greats.
 
Keith beat me to it re the 2005s. I do agree with slaton about the general improvement in quality especially the huge jump FF made as of 2008 as well as the Horseshoe syrah. I have trouble justifying buying their syrah though given the price differential with ESJ.

And I've been loving their chardonnay since the 2003 (Kevin sent a bottle to Keith for our first Rhys dinner).
 
FWIW, they quickly re-evaluated their plantings of Dijon clones and replaced them with "suitcase" clones. That makes a big difference. I don't recall where the syrah material comes from.
 
originally posted by Jay Miller:
Keith beat me to it re the 2005s. I do agree with slaton about the general improvement in quality especially the huge jump FF made as of 2008 as well as the Horseshoe syrah. I have trouble justifying buying their syrah though given the price differential with ESJ.

And I've been loving their chardonnay since the 2003 (Kevin sent a bottle to Keith for our first Rhys dinner).
Admittedly, Steve's Syrah is a bargain.
But the 2010 Horseshoe, Syrah is as close to Jamet as I have tasted - amazing wine.
Best, Jim
 
originally posted by VLM:
originally posted by Cory Cartwright:
originally posted by Jonathan Loesberg:
Two or three year ago, Jay was kind enough to serve my first Rhys when I visited NY. I readily admit to not appreciating it. Since then, I have had enough (via Craig Potts mostly (who used to claim not to like Pinot Noirs) to understand what the fuss was about. To the extent that I yet know enough to discriminate (and I don't), I had a preference for Bearswallow.
That's quite possibly because it was an early bottle and the quality has gone up dramatically.

Since 2008, the wines we tasted on our visit, they've been about as good as any wines from anywhere.

Arnot-Roberts have a pinot noir this fall from the Martin Ray vineyard in Santa Cruz that is pretty exciting.
I'm actually talking ab out the stuff from earlier that I've been able to taste. What Jonathon may have had could have easily been from then.
 
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