Domaine de Pallus

originally posted by Jeff Grossman:
I had the '05 "Pensees" bottling in mid-2009. It was bitter, tannic, and very green. I felt no need to repeat the experience.

i recently had the 2010. it sounds like this must be the house style. not my cup of tea neither.
 
Wondered about this. RWC was shilling this about a month or two back. Sounded too good to be true.
 
Another RWC offer on this that got my attention, with some hype from Gilman. Anyone had these more recently? It struck me that my Loire red stash is starting to age into their drinking zones without my having much younger stuff to take their place, and I'm no longer current on what's going on in Chinon &c. What are you all buying these days?
 
originally posted by Keith Levenberg:
Another RWC offer on this that got my attention, with some hype from Gilman. Anyone had these more recently? It struck me that my Loire red stash is starting to age into their drinking zones without my having much younger stuff to take their place, and I'm no longer current on what's going on in Chinon &c. What are you all buying these days?

most recently had les pensees de pallus '17
it was OK. I prefer soil vectors to be more prominent.

You asking about Chinon specifically? Beyond the obvious that you don't need advice on, I'd keep an eye on domaine de la mariniere, dom de la noblaie, chateau du petit thouars (per bj's thread), marc plouzeau, clos des capucins. I'll probably think of others later.
 
originally posted by robert ames:
some of my favourite chinons come from bourgueil and/or saumur.
There are a few Saumur in my regular rotation but I can't shake the sense that the appellation is basking in a bit more of the Rougeard glow than it might properly be entitled to

Suggestions welcome though
 
originally posted by Keith Levenberg:
appellation is basking in a bit more of the Rougeard glow than it might properly be entitled to

that's fair to an extent, if you are talking styles broadly covered by collier, guiberteau, des closiers, porte saint jean, yvonne

much less so with a more linear/pure style of arnaud lambert and villeneuve. Objectively must throw roches neuves into this group even though personally i can't process the wines (and i am not alone here)

then there is hureau, who bask in their own glow
 
originally posted by Keith Levenberg:
originally posted by robert ames:
some of my favourite chinons come from bourgueil and/or saumur.
There are a few Saumur in my regular rotation but I can't shake the sense that the appellation is basking in a bit more of the Rougeard glow than it might properly be entitled to

Suggestions welcome though

Yeah, despite a lot of claims, I don't think anyone has come close. Not that I've drunk a lot of Rougeard; I discovered it right when the train left the station (I think last time I bought it it was $25 for the '01)...
 
originally posted by BJ:
originally posted by Keith Levenberg:
originally posted by robert ames:
some of my favourite chinons come from bourgueil and/or saumur.
There are a few Saumur in my regular rotation but I can't shake the sense that the appellation is basking in a bit more of the Rougeard glow than it might properly be entitled to

Suggestions welcome though

Yeah, despite a lot of claims, I don't think anyone has come close. Not that I've drunk a lot of Rougeard; I discovered it right when the train left the station (I think last time I bought it it was $25 for the '01)...

I agree, no one in the area has come close to being so oaky.
 
originally posted by Oswaldo Costa:
originally posted by BJ:
originally posted by Keith Levenberg:
originally posted by robert ames:
some of my favourite chinons come from bourgueil and/or saumur.
There are a few Saumur in my regular rotation but I can't shake the sense that the appellation is basking in a bit more of the Rougeard glow than it might properly be entitled to

Suggestions welcome though

Yeah, despite a lot of claims, I don't think anyone has come close. Not that I've drunk a lot of Rougeard; I discovered it right when the train left the station (I think last time I bought it it was $25 for the '01)...

I agree, no one in the area has come close to being so oaky.

Fair enough, though I only had the base cuvee, which I believe was all neutral oak. That was an incredible wine.
 
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