Rhone wines tasted in NYC

Jeff Grossman

Jeff Grossman
12/14/08

Fabio Piccolo Fiore is an Italian restaurant nearby to Grand Central Station in NYC. It is tucked away in a bland East Side-looking street, but, upon entering, I find the room and the staff are both warm and inviting.

They seat us wine geeks at a big table in the front room. On request, the waiter provides dump buckets and allocates a two-top for us to offload bottles, bread baskets, leads & corks, etc. from the main table.

The menu offers typical upscale Italian restaurant fare but encourages everyone to order whatever they like and the kitchen will accommodate. In fact, about half of us order from the list of daily specials -- that veal chop -- and the rest of us order lamb chops. There's burrata first, and a pasta sampler plate second.

And we order roast meats because the theme tonight is Rhone wines, North and South.

Participants: Patrick & Brendan Martin, Ian Amstad, Dale Williams, Ramon C, Jeff Grossman, Jay Miller, Richard Lin

::: Starter :::

Chave 1997 Hermitage Blanc - rich, viscous, even a bit waxy; all honeyed apricots at first then a long finish with an interesting touch of apricot-pit bitterness; quite lush, not minerally at all; a wine that is easy to like, if not at all thought-provoking

::: Flight 1 :::

These wines were all singing and I enjoyed them a lot. The extra thrill, of course, was watching Jay's face whenever he tried one: "The flavor profile they all have in common is rotting plum."

Beaucastel 1995 Chateauneuf-du-Pape - this bottle seems quite open and friendly tonight: rich red fruits and red meat, velvety texture, reminiscent of an Hermitage (not that I can afford those much anymore)

Pegau 1995 Chateauneuf-du-Pape "Cuvee Reservee" - black pepper, iodine, lots of meat, a whiff of something vinegary, and lots of dark red fruit flavors; the nose is a bit sweeter

Les Callioux (Brunel) 1988 Chateauneuf-du-Pape - others thought this wine was on the decline (Dale said the finish was "thinning") but I would say it was a perfect Ch9: strawberry grenache flavors, clean of biological defects, acidity just bright enough to light the way, alcohol unobtrusive

::: Flight 2 :::

These wines, on the other hand, appealed very little to me. Did the wine-making change over the intervening years, or is it just their youth?

Sabon 2001 Chateauneuf-du-Pape "Cuvee Prestige" - a lovely nose of raspberries and ladies' face powder, but virtually tasteless and the alcohol sticks out

Charbonnire 2001 Chateauneuf-du-Pape "Les Hautes Brusquires" "Cuvee Speciale" - generic and flat

Charvin 2001 Chateauneuf-du-Pape - less tannic than the others in this flight so it's easier to drink but it still offers no discernible flavor

::: Flight 3 :::

I was eagerly anticipating this flight as I've not had so much simultaneous Cornas in a while.

Chapoutier 1996 Cornas - So, here's a wine that I am all ready to dislike but more fool me: what a pretty nose of subtle herbs and blue fruit, the wine is rich and full, but it does finish short

Allemand 1996 Cornas "Reynard" - pork fat (I call mortadella, Dale calls smoked ham), kalamata olives, and gunpowder; great material here but the nose is funky and hard to pin down so we all think it is unwise to open any more bottles of this for a few years yet

Voge 1999 Cornas VV - nose is slightly sickly-sweet, perhaps the result of a touch of wood?, anyway the wine is bright and unchallenging; others like it more than I

Verset 1998 Cornas - this is wow stuff: juicy, acidy, rich texture and full of olives and dark dark berries, Ian calls "cinders and green olive", Brandon calls it "briny", a great bottle

::: Flight 4 :::

A mixed flight but promising.

Saint Cosme 1998 Cote Rotie - yup (that's my shorthand for "it tastes exactly as you think a Cote Rotie might, neither great nor mediocre")

Jamet 1998 Cote Rotie - bright and balanced, leather, roast fowl, this bottle is not as good as one that I had earlier this year (which I had decanted for several hours) but it's still great wine

Gerin 1998 Cote Rotie "Les Grandes Places" - perhaps they were good grapes but this wine is tired from its oak treatment (i.e., it's a little sweet and a little porky but it's also low acid and generic red-winey)

Chave 1986 Hermitage Rouge - austere, lots of dirt, I enjoyed this wine but, as it is the man of the flight, I won't compare it directly to the rest of the pretty girls

::: Closer :::

Coutet 2003 Barsac - my only note, in my most drunken handwriting, reads, "good balance"
 
I had the 1996 Allemand Reynard last Sunday afternoon and it was a little more together than your bottle...the nose wasn't exactly effusive but sang quietly of bacon and white pepper. If anything, it was a little closed down on the palate, lacking the depth that I've come to see as what sets Allemand apart from most other Cornas producers. Still, the take-away thought about the wine was "purity". I'm not sure if the 96 is on the way up or in a declining stage, but it was in a very user friendly spot last weekend.

-Eden (still have some bottle left to experiment with in the future)
 
I've had a couple of tastes of Gerin LGP in various vintages and, like you, came away unimpressed...manipulated and oaky. A poster child for how to mess up good grapes.
Bill
 
I liked the 1996 Reynard better than most at the table, thought it was just gorgeous right now and much better than the last bottle I opened which shut down after about 20 minutes. But the Verset was the class of the night. Hauntingly beautiful.

I was also pleasantly surprised by the Chapoutier Cornas. Not a great wine but one of the better Chapoutiers I've had (my first Cornas from them).

The Voge was quite pleasant, the 1986 Chave a bit frailer than my last experience but still hanging in there with precise mature flavors.

The 1997 Chave Hermitage Blanc was in a great place and much more developed than the one at the Josie-less Chave vertical lo these many years ago.

The Coutet was good, rich but lacking in the 2001 acidity that would have taken it to the next level.
 
I tried a 2000 Verset a while back that your note on the '98 reminds me of.

Ashy, acid, olive, and brine. It was elemental Cornas and I loved it.
 
wow, you had 98 verset, i am envious.
that wine is like the myth of sisyphus, except with a happy ending
 
originally posted by .sasha:
wow, you had 98 verset, i am envious.
that wine is like the myth of sisyphus, except with a happy ending

well, I was going to offer to open one for you but someone just outbid me on winebid :(
 
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