TN: Bacchus Indifferent (Oct 28, 2016)

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Jeff Grossman

Jeff Grossman
attendees: Manuel+Josie, Jay, Jayson, Chris, Asher, Michel, Brad, Jeff

Some nights, when the God isn't watching, the grapes stray.

R&V Bereche Cru Selectionnes 1996 Champagne "Montagne" - the Cru Selectionnes are bought-in finished wines that the Bereche Boys find typical of the named region for the vintage; this is very pleasant wine, crisp and dry and minerally

Hirtzberger 2001 Riesling Singerriedel - I recall this was drinking well even though I could not recall the label

O. Raffault 1990 Chinon - a somewhat sweaty and bretty bottle, maybe a little tired, too, meh

C&P Breton 1997 Bourgueil "Les Perrieres" - on the other hand, this was excellent: green, for sure, but still tangy and robust and clean, best wine on the table

Dom. d'Ardhuy 2004 Cote de Nuits-Villages "Clos des Langres" Rouge, Monopole - Brad and Jay won't touch it, Chris and I aren't bothered by the greenies but the texture is silty and the flavor faint, meh

Jadot 1998 Beaune 1er "Clos des Ursules" - this was very tight on opening, but improved with time, not ringing my bell, either

Texier 2014 Cote-Rotie VV - another candidate for the odd-texture-faint-flavor award; probably way too soon to have opened it

Cowan Cellars 2009 Syrah, Dry Stack Vineyard, Bennett Valley - delivered today so horribly unfair to open it, and yet... it's weirdly icky

Montevertine 2012 IGT "Pergole Torte" - this was very good in it's doth protest too much non-Chianti-ness, let's hear it for a second good red!

Chateau Pichon-Longueville au Baron de Pichon-Longueville 1995 Pauillac - 375 ml; also very tight and opened only slowly

Frog's Leap 1987 Cabernet Sauvignon - now that Brad mentions it, yes, this was a good bottle

Dom. Beaucastel 1994 Chateauneuf-du-Pape Blanc VV - now that Brad mentions it, yes, this was a bad bottle
 
Of course, there was a very nice evening of mingling friends and wide-ranging conversation: politics, wine, medicine, travel, pets, the Park, the City, tech, baseball, Hallowe'en....
 
You sure you were there, Jeff?

The Austrian was the '01 Hirtzberger- Riesling Singerriedel and it was gorgeous.

The Texier Cote-Rotie was the 2014, not 2010 and it's one of the best wines I've had of Eric's. Wonderful purity, finesse and freshness with the acids perfectly in balance. Beautiful fruit and violets here.

the '90 Raffault was a very different showing than the past four or five bottles I've had. This bottle showed green and coarse. The other bottles have shown lovely fruit, tobacco and nice balance.

The Pergole Torte was the 2012. Solid.

The '95 Pichon Baron, from hlaf bottle, was lovely, if still young. The '95's continue to age glacially.

You forgot the '87 Frog's Leap Cab, which showed wonderfully and had Manuel waxing poetic about it and how he probably drank this last in college.

There's was also a '94 Beaucastel VV Blanc, that was dreadful.

Oh, we also talked a lot about movies.

Always great to host Manuel and Josie. Certainly wish they'd visit more frequently.
 
originally posted by Peter Creasey:

originally posted by Brad Kane: '94 Beaucastel VV Blanc, that was dreadful.
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Hi Brad, any idea why? This from various vintages is usually quite tasty.

. . . . Pete
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Well, aside from the fact that it's made from grapes I don't like, is generally too low acid, too alcoholic and too oaky...
 
originally posted by Brad Kane:
You sure you were there, Jeff?
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I was there but I did not take notes. I did the initial post from memory. I have now updated it with the additional info you provided. Thank you.
 
originally posted by Jeff Grossman:
originally posted by Brad Kane:
Oh, we also talked a lot about movies.
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Right. Mostly how your DVR isn't keeping everything you want.
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It's recently lost Casablanca, Captains Courageous, Lifeboat, The Right Stuff, Apollo 13, A Clockwork Orange, Jaws, Close Encounters of the Third Kind and Citizen Kane and those are just the ones I can remember!

There were more good wines than you thought, but I didn't really do much more than taste as I was coming down with would be a case of the stomach flu, apparently.
 
originally posted by Brad Kane:
originally posted by Jeff Grossman:
originally posted by Brad Kane:
Oh, we also talked a lot about movies.
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Right. Mostly how your DVR isn't keeping everything you want.
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It's recently lost Casablanca, Captains Courageous, Lifeboat, The Right Stuff, Apollo 13, A Clockwork Orange, Jaws, Close Encounters of the Third Kind and Citizen Kane and those are just the ones I can remember!

There were more good wines than you thought, but I didn't really do much more than taste as I was coming down with would be a case of the stomach flu, apparently.
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You mean you haven't seen all those movies?
 
originally posted by Jonathan Loesberg:
originally posted by Brad Kane:
originally posted by Jeff Grossman:
originally posted by Brad Kane:
Oh, we also talked a lot about movies.
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Right. Mostly how your DVR isn't keeping everything you want.
Click to expand...

It's recently lost Casablanca, Captains Courageous, Lifeboat, The Right Stuff, Apollo 13, A Clockwork Orange, Jaws, Close Encounters of the Third Kind and Citizen Kane and those are just the ones I can remember!

There were more good wines than you thought, but I didn't really do much more than taste as I was coming down with would be a case of the stomach flu, apparently.
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You mean you haven't seen all those movies?
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No, I've seen all of them repeatedly, but I like having classic movie options for when folks come over and a number of those are amongst my favorite movies.
 
originally posted by Brad Kane:
originally posted by Jonathan Loesberg:
originally posted by Brad Kane:
originally posted by Jeff Grossman:
originally posted by Brad Kane:
Oh, we also talked a lot about movies.
Click to expand...
Right. Mostly how your DVR isn't keeping everything you want.
Click to expand...

It's recently lost Casablanca, Captains Courageous, Lifeboat, The Right Stuff, Apollo 13, A Clockwork Orange, Jaws, Close Encounters of the Third Kind and Citizen Kane and those are just the ones I can remember!

There were more good wines than you thought, but I didn't really do much more than taste as I was coming down with would be a case of the stomach flu, apparently.
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You mean you haven't seen all those movies?
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No, I've seen all of them repeatedly, but I like having classic movie options for when folks come over and a number of those are amongst my favorite movies.
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So DVRs do have limits on space. Usually, when you use them up, though, they refuse to tape more rather then taping over something. DVRs tied to cable deliverers frequently have use-by dates, but you can override them and tell the DVR to keep the movie until you say otherwise. For my tastes, if I'm going to watch a movie for the dozenth time, I would vote for an old film noir with great dialogue like Double Indemnity, Out of the Past or To Have and Have Not. Casablanca fits that bill-- the others, though they are great movies--not so much.
 
originally posted by Jonathan Loesberg:
originally posted by Brad Kane:
originally posted by Jonathan Loesberg:
originally posted by Brad Kane:
originally posted by Jeff Grossman:
originally posted by Brad Kane:
Oh, we also talked a lot about movies.
Click to expand...
Right. Mostly how your DVR isn't keeping everything you want.
Click to expand...

It's recently lost Casablanca, Captains Courageous, Lifeboat, The Right Stuff, Apollo 13, A Clockwork Orange, Jaws, Close Encounters of the Third Kind and Citizen Kane and those are just the ones I can remember!

There were more good wines than you thought, but I didn't really do much more than taste as I was coming down with would be a case of the stomach flu, apparently.
Click to expand...

You mean you haven't seen all those movies?
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No, I've seen all of them repeatedly, but I like having classic movie options for when folks come over and a number of those are amongst my favorite movies.
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So DVRs do have limits on space. Usually, when you use them up, though, they refuse to tape more rather then taping over something. DVRs tied to cable deliverers frequently have use-by dates, but you can override them and tell the DVR to keep the movie until you say otherwise. For my tastes, if I'm going to watch a movie for the dozenth time, I would vote for an old film noir with great dialogue like Double Indemnity, Out of the Past or To Have and Have Not. Casablanca fits that bill-- the others, though they are great movies--not so much.
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I knew about the space limit, but I didn't know about the time limit. I'll have to try and fix that.

Most of the movies I have saved are from the '30s, '40s and '50s as well as from the silent era. I've wanted to put some come over for a movie and wine jeebs for awhile, so I was storing interesting selections for that. Speedy, which I love, was the only one saved on my DVR that Coad hadn't seen and there was a lot of interest for the Third Man. They were all recorded off of TCM, so no commercials, which is a big plus.
 
Brad Kane wrote:

Most of the movies I have saved are from the '30s, '40s and '50s as well as from the silent era. I've wanted to put some come over for a movie and wine jeebs for awhile.
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Holy hell. Really? Silent movies and instead, you talking about Chenin.
 
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