TN: Recent drinking (late Jan. 2018)

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Jeff Grossman

Jeff Grossman
Roche Bleue 2015 Coteaux du Loir "La Belle D'Aunis" - pretty wine, good typicity of pineau d'aunis, made in a lighter style than Dom. Belliviere (which I adore but this goes down all the easier for it), I'd buy this again

Luigi Giordano 2016 Langhe Rosso - a similar note! this, too, definitely tastes like it's supposed to (nebbiolo), the style is light and fresh and gulpable
 
Did quite well choosing from a difficult wine list last night (or should there be a new thread for February?): floral and gently fruity basic gruener Nigl 2016 with the requisite and welcome peppery celery in backpalate + 2013 muga reserva that is rich but fresh and classic, impressively adaptable to wide range of dishes.
 
originally posted by Pavel Tchichikov:
Did quite well choosing from a difficult wine list last night (or should there be a new thread for February?): floral and gently fruity basic gruener Nigl 2016 with the requisite and welcome peppery celery in backpalate + 2013 muga reserva that is rich but fresh and classic, impressively adaptable to wide range of dishes.
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I haven't heard any reports from the Eastern Empire, but the few '16 GVs I've sampled have been hell of impressive: taut, muscular but with great definition of flavor. Definitely moreish. These have mostly been the basic sorta GVs so all the more impressive.

Mark Lipton
 
originally posted by MLipton:
originally posted by Pavel Tchichikov:
Did quite well choosing from a difficult wine list last night (or should there be a new thread for February?): floral and gently fruity basic gruener Nigl 2016 with the requisite and welcome peppery celery in backpalate + 2013 muga reserva that is rich but fresh and classic, impressively adaptable to wide range of dishes.
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I haven't heard any reports from the Eastern Empire, but the few '16 GVs I've sampled have been hell of impressive: taut, muscular but with great definition of flavor. Definitely moreish. These have mostly been the basic sorta GVs so all the more impressive.

Mark Lipton
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Good for you. This weekend I took the basic '16 Schloss Gobelsburg GV to a dinner party and found it adequate but not too impressive or moreish.

Maybe I should have listened to the salesman who encouraged me to buy the '16 Anton Bauer GV Gmörk. But when he described it as 'something to just crush', I instinctively recoiled.
 
originally posted by Rahsaan:
originally posted by MLipton:
originally posted by Pavel Tchichikov:
Did quite well choosing from a difficult wine list last night (or should there be a new thread for February?): floral and gently fruity basic gruener Nigl 2016 with the requisite and welcome peppery celery in backpalate + 2013 muga reserva that is rich but fresh and classic, impressively adaptable to wide range of dishes.
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I haven't heard any reports from the Eastern Empire, but the few '16 GVs I've sampled have been hell of impressive: taut, muscular but with great definition of flavor. Definitely moreish. These have mostly been the basic sorta GVs so all the more impressive.

Mark Lipton
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Good for you. This weekend I took the basic '16 Schloss Gobelsburg GV to a dinner party and found it adequate but not too impressive or moreish.

Maybe I should have listened to the salesman who encouraged me to buy the '16 Anton Bauer GV Gmörk. But when he described it as 'something to just crush', I instinctively recoiled.
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Prompted by this exchange, I just read through a few vintage reports for '16. Looking at Theise's take (available on the Skurnick site) it appears that '16 did favor GV and that the lower levels were particularly favored (of great news to a bottom feeder such as myself). I'm a bit surprised that the Gobelsburger didn't show better as it's usually a very good basic bottling, but then it may depend on what your expectations are for it. If memory serves, the ones I've had were from Loimer, Hirsch and Brundlmayer.

Mark Lipton
 
Yes, expectations always play a role. I don't think I was looking for anything mindblowing, and the wine was nice. But maybe my calibration was a bit out of whack from the previous night's lovely 09 Hirtzberger Rotes Tor Smaragd GV.

My local shop carries '16 Bründlmayer Terrassen GV, so will keep that in mind for the next dinner party invite!
 
But maybe my calibration was a bit out of whack from the previous night's lovely 09 Hirtzberger Rotes Tor Smaragd GV.
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Wouldn't be surprising. To me, mature GV from top vineyards/old vines often doesn't even taste like the same variety as the cheaper, earlier harvested stuff.
 
originally posted by Rahsaan:
originally posted by MLipton:
originally posted by Pavel Tchichikov:
Did quite well choosing from a difficult wine list last night (or should there be a new thread for February?): floral and gently fruity basic gruener Nigl 2016 with the requisite and welcome peppery celery in backpalate + 2013 muga reserva that is rich but fresh and classic, impressively adaptable to wide range of dishes.
Click to expand...

I haven't heard any reports from the Eastern Empire, but the few '16 GVs I've sampled have been hell of impressive: taut, muscular but with great definition of flavor. Definitely moreish. These have mostly been the basic sorta GVs so all the more impressive.

Mark Lipton
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Good for you. This weekend I took the basic '16 Schloss Gobelsburg GV to a dinner party and found it adequate but not too impressive or moreish.

Maybe I should have listened to the salesman who encouraged me to buy the '16 Anton Bauer GV Gmörk. But when he described it as 'something to just crush', I instinctively recoiled.
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Whoa, what's your local shop? I can't imagine Russ saying that...
 
Chapel Hill Wine Company. I've now been there 3 times in the 4.5 years I've lived here. Not my favorite type of store for all kinds of reasons. But they do have real wines and are good for picking up these dinner party wines. (Not something I tend to stash at home)
 
originally posted by Christian Miller (CMM):
But maybe my calibration was a bit out of whack from the previous night's lovely 09 Hirtzberger Rotes Tor Smaragd GV.
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Wouldn't be surprising. To me, mature GV from top vineyards/old vines often doesn't even taste like the same variety as the cheaper, earlier harvested stuff.
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Sure. Apples and oranges. But the basic estate bottling is the Steinsetz, not the purchased grape wine, which is sort of the equivalent of a lot of Liter bottlings. Yet it is just fine as an everyday quaff, but Bründlmayer Terrassen GV isn't always my favorite basic GV. Most often I buy Nigl's Freiheit GV instead.
 
originally posted by Rahsaan:
Chapel Hill Wine Company. I've now been there 3 times in the 4.5 years I've lived here. Not my favorite type of store for all kinds of reasons. But they do have real wines and are good for picking up these dinner party wines. (Not something I tend to stash at home)
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Hmm . . . funny I've never been there. Examples of "real wines"?
 
originally posted by mark e:
originally posted by Rahsaan:
Chapel Hill Wine Company. I've now been there 3 times in the 4.5 years I've lived here. Not my favorite type of store for all kinds of reasons. But they do have real wines and are good for picking up these dinner party wines. (Not something I tend to stash at home)
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Hmm . . . funny I've never been there. Examples of "real wines"?
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For starters, all the gruners I've mentioned in this thread (Bründlmayer Terrassen, Bauer Gmörk, Gobelsburg), plus one from Ott. They also usually have Falkenstein wines. And a smattering of wines from all countries/regions that one would be willing (or even happy) to drink. But also lots of stuff one wouldn't want to drink, and not too many 'higher-end' wines. So it's an option for picking up party wines.
 
originally posted by Rahsaan:
originally posted by mark e:
originally posted by Rahsaan:
Chapel Hill Wine Company. I've now been there 3 times in the 4.5 years I've lived here. Not my favorite type of store for all kinds of reasons. But they do have real wines and are good for picking up these dinner party wines. (Not something I tend to stash at home)
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Hmm . . . funny I've never been there. Examples of "real wines"?
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For starters, all the gruners I've mentioned in this thread (Bründlmayer Terrassen, Bauer Gmörk, Gobelsburg), plus one from Ott. They also usually have Falkenstein wines. And a smattering of wines from all countries/regions that one would be willing (or even happy) to drink. But also lots of stuff one wouldn't want to drink, and not too many 'higher-end' wines. So it's an option for picking up party wines.
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Thanks. I'm pretty isolated. Apart from Cave Taureau (and in the fairly recent past Caviste) I've only bought a few things from the little store at GlassHalfFull and Southern Season.
 
I have been pleasantly surprised in Glass Half Full, and roundly disappointed by what has happened to a Southern Season.
Best, Jim
 
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