3 Wines I opened last night - Byass, CRB, von Schubert

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Jay Miller

Jay Miller
Manuel and Josie are in town so it's time to break out some decent wine.

1966 Gonzalez Byass Oloroso - Like a warm blanket on a cold autumn night. Fills the mouth with a gentle cloud of almonds and orange peel. Delightful and mesmerizing.

2009 Clos Roche Blanche Cot - Pure harmonious fruit, earth and minerals. Their 2009s were a high point of this ever amazing winery. Come back to us Didier!

1997 von Schubert Maximin Grunhauser Abstberg Spatlese - a moment of terror as pulling the cork unleashed a torrent of TCA into the room. Miraculously it was just the cork. Jayson wiped the neck clean and the wine was glorious. The cork was quickly removed from the room.
 
originally posted by Jay Miller... a moment of terror as pulling the cork unleashed a torrent of TCA into the room. Miraculously it was just the cork..
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Really? How often does this happen? Seems hard to believe. It wasn't some other strong odor-of-cork that was not TCA?
 
originally posted by Jay Miller:
2009 Clos Roche Blanche Cot - Pure harmonious fruit, earth and minerals. Their 2009s were a high point of this ever amazing winery. Come back to us Didier!
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I also think this was the last mono-variety Côt prior to their retirement and contained all of the old vine fruit (but not exclusively, IIRC).

As you said, magic.
 
i find reeking corks that are sealing sound wine to be an occasional reality.

my first experience was many years ago at a restaurant where the tca odor was very strong as soon as the foil was cut. i steeled myself for the pas de deux of informing the server and sending the wine back, but when poured it was as un-corked as a wine could be.

if the wine doesn't saturate all the way into the part of the cork to where the tca resides, the tca will not be transmitted to the wine.

to have the wine not find the tca in a 22 year old spatlese is remarkable, but it can happen.
 
originally posted by robert ames:
if the wine doesn't saturate all the way into the part of the cork to where the tca resides, the tca will not be transmitted to the wine.

to have the wine not find the tca in a 22 year old spatlese is remarkable, but it can happen.
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I dunno if that's the issue or just that old, rotten corks covered with moldy, dusty, grimy goop from a long snooze in the cellar can smell fairly indistinguishable from tca, even if there isn't tca.
 
originally posted by Keith Levenberg:
Anyone familiar with Valerie Forgues? Weygandt just offered a Touraine gamay with a note that Didier Barrouillet has been consulting.
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I had heard about her but didn't know the wines were available in the US yet. I see several on wine-searcher scattered between different shops. I haven't tried any to date.
 
originally posted by Keith Levenberg:
Anyone familiar with Valerie Forgues? Weygandt just offered a Touraine gamay with a note that Didier Barrouillet has been consulting.
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I had heard about her but didn't know the wines were available in the US yet. I see several on wine-searcher scattered between different shops. I haven't tried any to date.
 
originally posted by VLM:
originally posted by Jay Miller:
2009 Clos Roche Blanche Cot - Pure harmonious fruit, earth and minerals. Their 2009s were a high point of this ever amazing winery. Come back to us Didier!
Click to expand...

I also think this was the last mono-variety Côt prior to their retirement and contained all of the old vine fruit (but not exclusively, IIRC).

As you said, magic.
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Indeed. And thanks to VLM's foresight in putting some away we were able to drink this glorious wine.
 
originally posted by Keith Levenberg:
originally posted by robert ames:
if the wine doesn't saturate all the way into the part of the cork to where the tca resides, the tca will not be transmitted to the wine.

to have the wine not find the tca in a 22 year old spatlese is remarkable, but it can happen.
Click to expand...
I dunno if that's the issue or just that old, rotten corks covered with moldy, dusty, grimy goop from a long snooze in the cellar can smell fairly indistinguishable from tca, even if there isn't tca.
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it is actually more common with new corks where the wine has 'intruded' least.
 
originally posted by Jay Miller:
originally posted by Keith Levenberg:
Anyone familiar with Valerie Forgues? Weygandt just offered a Touraine gamay with a note that Didier Barrouillet has been consulting.
Click to expand...

I had heard about her but didn't know the wines were available in the US yet. I see several on wine-searcher scattered between different shops. I haven't tried any to date.
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I've heard great things as well. Interesting that Weygandt is offering it since it is a LDM wine.
 
originally posted by mark e:
originally posted by VLM:
originally posted by Jay Miller:
2009 Clos Roche Blanche Cot - Pure harmonious fruit, earth and minerals. Their 2009s were a high point of this ever amazing winery. Come back to us Didier!
Click to expand...

I also think this was the last mono-variety Côt prior to their retirement and contained all of the old vine fruit (but not exclusively, IIRC).

As you said, magic.
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Indeed. And thanks to VLM's foresight in putting some away we were able to drink this glorious wine.
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It was my most distinct pleasure. I've got a few more left for the next time we cross paths.
 
originally posted by robert ames:
originally posted by Keith Levenberg:
originally posted by robert ames:
if the wine doesn't saturate all the way into the part of the cork to where the tca resides, the tca will not be transmitted to the wine.

to have the wine not find the tca in a 22 year old spatlese is remarkable, but it can happen.
Click to expand...
I dunno if that's the issue or just that old, rotten corks covered with moldy, dusty, grimy goop from a long snooze in the cellar can smell fairly indistinguishable from tca, even if there isn't tca.
Click to expand...

it is actually more common with new corks where the wine has 'intruded' least.
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Unmistakably reak of TCA in the cork. Wine was phenomenal.
 
originally posted by Keith Levenberg:
Anyone familiar with Valerie Forgues? Weygandt just offered a Touraine gamay with a note that Didier Barrouillet has been consulting.
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I tried this yesterday. Surprisingly dark and heavy for a Loire gamay but got more glou-glou w/ crunchy red fruits with some air. Enough CO2 it needed a shake. Not bad but nothin' special.
 
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