Jeff Grossman
Jeff Grossman
Cheese caves under Crown Heights. Who knew?
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Affinage in Brooklyn
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Christian Miller (CMM)
Christian Miller
originally posted by Jeff Grossman:
Affinage in BrooklynCheese caves under Crown Heights. Who knew?
Several affinage operations have sprung up in recent years. I don't know how well the financials work out for the affineurs, but for reasons of inventory cost and business culture a lot of artisanal cheesemakers are happy to move their cheese out the door and avoid both aging and selling hassles. For similar reasons, Jasper Hill's cave aging operation has worked, with several of the caves used for aging other people's cheese.
Jeff Grossman
Jeff Grossman
Yes, indeed. One might imagine that land in Brooklyn costs more than land in a barn, however, or that some other purpose was already assigned to the land when there are 2 million people living nearby.originally posted by MarkS:
Cheese need to age somewhere, right?
Christian Miller (CMM)
Christian Miller
At least it's better than commercial storefronts sitting empty for 2-3 years after jacking the rent up. My understanding is that the aging cellars had some defunct commercial uses, now repurposed to cheese aging. The article mentioned an ice house, cold storage and a brewery. The latter makes me wonder if there is stray brewery yeast lurking in the cellars, and if that would have any effect on the aging process.originally posted by Jeff Grossman:
...or that some other purpose was already assigned to the land when there are 2 million people living nearby.originally posted by MarkS:
Cheese need to age somewhere, right?
georg lauer
georg lauer
originally posted by Jeff Grossman:
Yes, indeed. One might imagine that land in Brooklyn costs more than land in a barn, however, or that some other purpose was already assigned to the land when there are 2 million people living nearby.originally posted by MarkS:
Cheese need to age somewhere, right?
Even in Brooklyn a cold and wet former ice cellar might be hard to rent.
Michael Lewis
Michael Lewis
originally posted by georg lauer:
originally posted by Jeff Grossman:
Yes, indeed. One might imagine that land in Brooklyn costs more than land in a barn, however, or that some other purpose was already assigned to the land when there are 2 million people living nearby.originally posted by MarkS:
Cheese need to age somewhere, right?
Even in Brooklyn a cold and wet former ice cellar might be hard to rent.
I would kill to be able to rent something like that here in DC.
originally posted by Christian Miller (CMM):
At least it's better than commercial storefronts sitting empty for 2-3 years after jacking the rent up. My understanding is that the aging cellars had some defunct commercial uses, now repurposed to cheese aging. The article mentioned an ice house, cold storage and a brewery. The latter makes me wonder if there is stray brewery yeast lurking in the cellars, and if that would have any effect on the aging process.
Could be worse places to age, say where PFOA was used in manufacture or a lead smelting factory. Anyway, it looks nice and the cheeses are happy!
georg lauer
georg lauer
originally posted by Michael Lewis:
I would kill to be able to rent something like that here in DC.
I hear you. But how much would you be willing to spend?
Michael Lewis
Michael Lewis
originally posted by georg lauer:
originally posted by Michael Lewis:
I would kill to be able to rent something like that here in DC.
I hear you. But how much would you be willing to spend?
That's a fair point. I suppose the answer would depend on what I ultimately want to use it for. There's still quite a need for good but reasonably priced wine storage within the District. I could see a few like-minded collectors wanting to share a space like that for their own use, or a few investors wanting to make a commercial endeavor out of it.
Jeff Grossman
Jeff Grossman
A new brewery location for Torch and Crown. Two floors, ground and -2. Onsite brewing will be the experiments; main pulls will still come from the Bronx.