Tremblay shout out

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VLM, I find that Laurent Tribut can scratch much the same itch as Dauvissat. The wines are a probably a little less complex, when both at their best, which isn't so surprising because Dauvissat has the greater terroir. If you don't know those wines, I recommend trying a bottle or two. I also like Louis Michel, in a different style, but defer to Florida Jim to wax rhapsodic on those.
 
The only wine I've had recently from Piuze is from his other property, Val de Mer. 2014 Bougros and it was outstanding. He makes the wine in a similar manner as his own domaine, but in a different facility.
 
originally posted by Jim Hanlon:
I also like Louis Michel, in a different style, but defer to Florida Jim to wax rhapsodic on those.
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And I do.
Tribut’s prices are getting beyond me but I like them.
I have no experience (that I remember) with any producer on VLM’s list.
Best, jim
 
originally posted by VLM:
originally posted by MLipton:
originally posted by Jim Hanlon:
originally posted by Larry Stein:
Fevre was the poster child for Chablis premox. However, it doesn't appear to be an issue any longer once they went to DIAM stoppers. That happened in 2010 for Grand Cru and 2007(8?) for Premier Cru.

I haven't seen any premox in Duplessis, Dauvissat or Raveneau bottles I've tasted. I don't taste wines from the latter two properties that often, but what I have tried in the past few years have all been 10-20 years old.

I can't speak for other producers.
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FWIW, I've seen frequent Premox problems with Vincent Dauvissat in the 2008-2014 range. I've stopped buying the wines, mostly because of price, but the Premox made that decision easier.
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Perzackly my position. A couple of pox’d ‘04 1ers from Dauvissat and I was done

Mark Lipton
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Anyone have thoughts on the following:
Jean Collet
Vincent Mothe
Dom. Christophe
Eleni and Edouard Vocoret
Dom. Beru
Piuze
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I do like Tribut but the wines may be too sleek for some. They are, however, quite reasonably priced where I am (1er crus are around $40, VAT included), and far cheaper than Dauvissat. They evolve very slowly (a bit like Foreau in that way).

I tried a couple of Beru, but they had too much VA for my taste.
 
Thanks all, I put out the list that I did because they come from wholesalers that I work with more generally.

My limited experience with Piuze was good, but only a few bottles scattered around different terroir and vinatges.

I know Tribut well, and may buy some, but they have a wholesaler with whom I don't do much business.

I was wondering about Beru, which are on the "natural" side of Chablis, but VA in Chablis doesn't sound like my jam. I might try a bottle if they show up in open inventory (one of the annoying things here is that for lots of wines that a wholesaler in a major market would carry in the course of business, NC wholesalers make available only on "pre-sale" by the case).

It sounds like my best chance for variety in style and terroir from Picq night be Moreau-Naudet.
 
originally posted by Larry Stein:
I own nothing but Chablis, no Côte de Beaune chardonnay. 105 bottles with 12 bottles of '17 Duplessis 1er cru and 3 Chablis AOC on order.
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Same here, except for Rollin's Pernand 1er Sous Fretilles, when I see it around.
 
originally posted by Tristan Welles:
originally posted by Larry Stein:
I found out about Duplessis via Selection Massale. When I visited Chablis in 2014, SM arranged a visit at the domaine. Lilian drove my friend and I to the top of Vaillons to see the lay of the land. My friend has a 1/2 acre (.2 hectare) hobby vineyard at his home in the Santa Cruz Mountains, all Pinot Noir. They talked about vineyard management.

I pretty much loaded up on 2009-14. I'm working my way through 11s. Not touching 2010s. Even the 09s I've had recently had plenty of acidity. 2017 will most likely be the last vintage I go big on. Actuarial tables. The other main US wholesaler, Hand Picked Selections, just offered 17s at a very fair price. Unfortunately, no Clos. All the 1er cru except Vaugiraut.
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I first became aware of Duplessis through a Dan Kravitz posting on Parker's old board. I sent him an email, since he tried to import the stuff, and eventually tracked down magnums of the '97 les Clos. Unbelievably good. Took some to a wine dinner with some California winemakers and that was the wine everybody kept coming back to. Dan subsequently had a hard time selling it to retail, so I couldn't always track down an allotment. I think it was after the '04 vintage when the wine became available annually in Chicago and I've bought it every year since. Fantastic wine.
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I ended up with two of the 97 magnums, the second of which I opened in 2012. I was less impressed, but maybe I held onto them too long ... or not long enough. There was a Chablis-head who posted there - nice guy - who described Duplessis's wines as being known in the region for their longevity. Anyway, the current Duplessis generation gets good reviews, and I'm game to try their wines again now.
 
originally posted by Jonathan Loesberg:
For those of you who have mentioned Bernard Defaix, do you have a preferred cuvée? Is the oak on the reserve Lechet intrusive?
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I've had quite a bit of the vv (same as the reserve, I think). Agree with Robert that they are good, but it's been a while since I've seen them around. The oak never bothered me, but I am not a quercophobe, and I think Defaix's barrels may be neutral (old) wood, for aeration, rather than seasoning.

I'd be interested in trying Servin's wines - he's a Kermit import, que no? I don't see them around my neck of the woods.
 
originally posted by Ian Fitzsimmons:
originally posted by Jonathan Loesberg:
For those of you who have mentioned Bernard Defaix, do you have a preferred cuvée? Is the oak on the reserve Lechet intrusive?
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I've had quite a bit of the vv (same as the reserve, I think). Agree with Robert that they are good, but it's been a while since I've seen them around. The oak never bothered me, but I am not a quercophobe, and I think Defaix's barrels may be neutral (old) wood, for aeration, rather than seasoning.

I'd be interested in trying Servin's wines - he's a Kermit import, que no? I don't see them around my neck of the woods.
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better yet, a weygandt import. while i have no quibble with kermit, weygandt stuff is easier on the pocketbook. weygandt's book is seriously a go-to bunch of stuff, including armagnac and calvados.
 
Good news. Weygandt is local, relatively speaking, and I'm in the market for a bottle of Calvados. A road trip to DC is on the agenda. They are also the ur-source of Vissoux and Amirault, among other good things. No Kirsch, unfortunately.

Now that I'm vaccinated, a pizza at the 2 Amy's may be possible, as well.

Yes, experience with Kermit has made me more a jaded wallet than a jaded palate. He distributes so widely, I imagine his pricing is extra robust to avoid any appearance of competition with his retail clientele, and to make their pricing look good, by comparison.

What Calvados at Weygandt do you like? I haven't bought any in so long, I've lost all recollection of producers names and reputations.
 
originally posted by Ian Fitzsimmons:
Good news. Weygandt is local, relatively speaking, and I'm in the market for a bottle of Calvados. A road trip to DC is on the agenda. They are also the ur-source of Vissoux and Amirault, among other good things. No Kirsch, unfortunately.

Now that I'm vaccinated, a pizza at the 2 Amy's may be possible, as well.

Yes, experience with Kermit has made me more a jaded wallet than a jaded palate. He distributes so widely, I imagine his pricing is extra robust to avoid any appearance of competition with his retail clientele, and to make their pricing look good, by comparison.

What Calvados at Weygandt do you like? I haven't bought any in so long, I've lost all recollection of producers names and reputations.
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hmmm. . .are you thinking of charles neal? weygandt has only one producer in normandy--sicera--and weygandt only carries his cider.

from charles neal, he now has a producer--montreuil--that is not in his book that makes great calvados at rock bottom prices. neal martin (vinous) did a great review of calvados not too long ago that you may find useful.
 
originally posted by Ian Fitzsimmons:
I must have overlooked something - hadn't you just written that Weygandt imports Calvados?

I'll seek out the Martin report - thanks.
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ah yes, i see that i did just that. . .uff da. pilot error.

it is charles neal that imports calvados, and has written the definitive book as well. he has also written the definitive book on armagnac.
 
Okay, thanks. I just want a decent bottle to have around. If I get into the weeds, I'll be dead before I make up my mind what to buy. I'll stop by McArthur's and see what they have on the shelf.
 
I'm a big fan of Adrien Camut's Calvados.

I opened a bottle of '17 Duplessis Chablis AC for my Zoom group. I had ordered one extra bottle of it for just that purpose. Not surprisingly, it was painfully young. It had great balance.
 
originally posted by robert ames:
originally posted by Ian Fitzsimmons:
Good news. Weygandt is local, relatively speaking, and I'm in the market for a bottle of Calvados. A road trip to DC is on the agenda. They are also the ur-source of Vissoux and Amirault, among other good things. No Kirsch, unfortunately.

Now that I'm vaccinated, a pizza at the 2 Amy's may be possible, as well.

Yes, experience with Kermit has made me more a jaded wallet than a jaded palate. He distributes so widely, I imagine his pricing is extra robust to avoid any appearance of competition with his retail clientele, and to make their pricing look good, by comparison.

What Calvados at Weygandt do you like? I haven't bought any in so long, I've lost all recollection of producers names and reputations.
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hmmm. . .are you thinking of charles neal? weygandt has only one producer in normandy--sicera--and weygandt only carries his cider.

from charles neal, he now has a producer--montreuil--that is not in his book that makes great calvados at rock bottom prices. neal martin (vinous) did a great review of calvados not too long ago that you may find useful.
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That Montreuil Reserve is a ridiculous qpr.
 
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