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Florida Jim

Florida Jim
2012 Cowan Cellars, Ribolla Gialla - skin-fermented to dry; showing spice, fresh stone fruit and more volume than at release. Absolutely no signs of fade. This wine has gone through periods of better/worse but never shut down. And it is open and giving now.

2018 Louis Michel, Chablis - we have been through multiple bottles of this and enjoyed them all. Of its place, crystal clear flavors, etched acids and fair depth for a village wine. I believe it will gain weight with time but it probably won’t get much - we drink this while the premier and grand crus gather dust.

2012 Cowan Cellars, Pinot Noir Anderson Valley - structured but open and much more typical of its AVA than my ‘13 or ‘14. Finesse but intense and subtle in angular ways. Reminds me of Pommard or Corton in its structure but is more feminine in delivery.

2018 Barbacan, Rosso di Valtellina - I don’t know that I have had a more complete young Nebbiolo; just a joy to smell and sip. Perfect balance, beautifully shaped and the essence of the grape. That said, great aged Barolo will deliver more complexity but, since I don’t have the time to give it, this will do nicely.

2018 Dom. Pierre Richard, Cotes de Jura Poulsard - Diane’s favorite wine right now; a light, intense, crisp thing with freshness and minerality. Goes with almost anything we eat and can be drunk without food easily. How I do love the Jura!

2018 Herve Souhaut, Syrah - medium weight, more finessed than most Syrah I drink, nicely complex and a texture that reminds me of washed silk. But it’s the complexity that stands out here. Diane says it’s a little sweet for her but I’ve found that several whole cluster wines have given her that impression. Tasted dandy to me.

2018 Bendicte and Stephan Tissot, Arbois Trousseau Singulier - I drink this variety from several different areas, including CA, but none compare to the balance and clarity of this wine; truly singular among its peers. The fruit concentration alone is compelling; the structure almost hidden. And there is no unevenness here, even at this young age. A mouthful of wine worth its elevated price.

1992 Fieldstone, Port - all Petite Sirah and purchased on release. Mature, full and tasty but without development. I’m aware of exceptions but, Petite Sirah lasts but doesn’t develop over the years and so, becomes ponderous. And 19% alcohol wines aren’t my thing.

2011 and 2015 Cowan Cellars, Syrah Bennett Valley - the ‘11 is “younger,” slightly disjointed and takes decanter time to knit. Both are typical of Bennett Valley (which for me is more cold climate than not) and both are under 14% abv. The ‘15 also shows young but is of a piece; no edges, plenty of savory and excellent balance. Long term, I think these will both make old bones - and I look forward to following them.

2011 Colpetrone, Sagrantino di Montefalco - tannic . . . solid fruit flavors, enough development to show some complexity and excellent with heavier food. Tannic.

2019 Jadot, Macon-Villages - The best QPR Chardonnay in the market today. Viscosity with cut, ripe flavors with sustain, beautiful textures and even some depth. I happened upon this by chance in a grocery store and now buy it by the case. Joyful wine, very well made.

2011 Cowan Cellars, Isa Lake County - Sauvignon Blanc, skin-fermented to dry. Since release, this wine has been all over the lot; at times too green, too tannic, too tight, etc. These days, it has shed its green yet still has an herbaceous note, integrated the tannin and become more generous. This will never be a mainstream wine but, at ten, it is a welcome change. Still Diane’s favorite wine I made.

Best, jim
 
Jim, concur on the Jadot Macon-Villages. It is a go-to wine on a regular basis. Since it is readily available most anywhere here, I'm able to buy only a few bottles at a time.

. . . . . Pete
 
originally posted by Florida Jim:

2018 Herve Souhaut, Syrah - medium weight, more finessed than most Syrah I drink, nicely complex and a texture that reminds me of washed silk.

Nice to see this positive note. It's been awhile for me, but the semi-carbonic Souhaut style gave the wines that silky finessed texture that showed the relation to gamay (which he also grows).
 
originally posted by Florida Jim:
2012 Cowan Cellars, Ribolla Gialla
2012 Cowan Cellars, Pinot Noir Anderson Valley
2011 and 2015 Cowan Cellars, Syrah Bennett Valley
2011 Cowan Cellars, Isa Lake County - Sauvignon Blanc

Good to see you enjoying the fruits of your labor. IIRC, my dad was really taken with the Isa.

originally posted by Florida Jim:
2018 Dom. Pierre Richard, Cotes de Jura Poulsard - Diane’s favorite wine right now; a light, intense, crisp thing with freshness and minerality. Goes with almost anything we eat and can be drunk without food easily. How I do love the Jura!

New producer to me. Did oyu look at the back label to see who brings it in?

originally posted by Florida Jim:
2011 Colpetrone, Sagrantino di Montefalco - tannic . . . solid fruit flavors, enough development to show some complexity and excellent with heavier food. Tannic.

I spent about a week in Umbria and visited some wineries. I'm not sure I've had a Sagrantino since then. It's very intense stuff. For wild boar stew, I think.
 
Savio Soares Selections for the Poulsard.
My time in Umbria was more about food and sights but Sagrantino was nightly. Cheap, great with truffles and ubiquitous. When I got home I started searching but there wasn’t much in the states - still I found and drank my share. Once Bea got to the US in force I found it more often.
I loved Umbria as no place else in Italy - I felt at home there.
Best, Jim
 
I only spent two nights and a day in Perugia but I enjoyed it very much. Mostly just walking around the town, a good dinner, a good bottle to bring home, a good piece of Deruta, and chocolate.
 
originally posted by VLM:
originally posted by Florida Jim:
2012 Cowan Cellars, Ribolla Gialla
2012 Cowan Cellars, Pinot Noir Anderson Valley
2011 and 2015 Cowan Cellars, Syrah Bennett Valley
2011 Cowan Cellars, Isa Lake County - Sauvignon Blanc

Good to see you enjoying the fruits of your labor. IIRC, my dad was really taken with the Isa.
I've liked the Bennett Valley wines, and I think I have that pinot now.
 
VLM,
Fortunately, I like my wine, as does Diane and our family.
A few wines I made missed the mark but several have turned out quite good. And all seem extremely long lived (even the Rose) so what isn’t sold will go into our library.
The winery was not a financial success but making wine is the best job I ever had (selling it was the worst, hence the lack of success).
But I will never regret the winery project - a steep learning curve, physically demanding, a long time interest in the subject, wonderful people in the production end, the opportunity to travel and, perhaps best of all, to be so close to nature every day.
I started the project when I turned 60; ended it at 72.
How many folks are chasing their dreams at that age, or able to?
And that I have a little left to enjoy with family and friends is a nice perk.
I’m a lucky guy.
Best, jim
 
originally posted by Florida Jim:
VLM,
Fortunately, I like my wine, as does Diane and our family.
A few wines I made missed the mark but several have turned out quite good. And all seem extremely long lived (even the Rose) so what isn’t sold will go into our library.
The winery was not a financial success but making wine is the best job I ever had (selling it was the worst, hence the lack of success).
But I will never regret the winery project - a steep learning curve, physically demanding, a long time interest in the subject, wonderful people in the production end, the opportunity to travel and, perhaps best of all, to be so close to nature every day.
I started the project when I turned 60; ended it at 72.
How many folks are chasing their dreams at that age, or able to?
And that I have a little left to enjoy with family and friends is a nice perk.
I’m a lucky guy.
Best, jim

I've told you this before but it's something I don't think I can say enough. I found your whole project inspiring and admirable. You made really good wines and found your own voice in doing so.

Folks don't realize how difficult selling wine for profit really is. I would consider your venture a success overall, despite the difficulty getting momentum for what was a very good product.

It reminds me of the Grenache Kenny made from Sceales vineyard. 110+ year old vines, I think own rooted. It was clearly the best Grenache I've ever had from CA and in the very top tier of wines made in CA full stop. He couldn't sell it. At all. Whether you can sell a wine or not is often left to forces you can't control.
 
originally posted by Florida Jim: I started the project when I turned 60; ended it at 72. How many folks are chasing their dreams at that age, or able to? And that I have a little left to enjoy with family and friends is a nice perk. I’m a lucky guy.

Jim, your straightforward, honest thinking and commenting are always a pleasure to witness. (Even if you don't like Grenache!)

. . . . . . Pete
 
I’ve not had many of Kenny’s wines, although I was pouring in the booth next to him at a tasting and got a chance to try some then. I’m surprised to hear the Grenache won’t sell - the grape achieved “darling” status for awhile in CA but, I guess, no more.
I too consider my project a success overall - only my CFO disagrees.
Best, jim
 
originally posted by Florida Jim:
VLM,
The winery was not a financial success but making wine is the best job I ever had (selling it was the worst, hence the lack of success).
But I will never regret the winery project - a steep learning curve, physically demanding, a long time interest in the subject, wonderful people in the production end, the opportunity to travel and, perhaps best of all, to be so close to nature every day.

"Ever?" I thought you were still doing this. You must have made a $hitload of wine to still be drinking them. What year did you stop?
 
originally posted by MarkS:
originally posted by Florida Jim:
VLM,
The winery was not a financial success but making wine is the best job I ever had (selling it was the worst, hence the lack of success).
But I will never regret the winery project - a steep learning curve, physically demanding, a long time interest in the subject, wonderful people in the production end, the opportunity to travel and, perhaps best of all, to be so close to nature every day.

"Ever?" I thought you were still doing this. You must have made a $hitload of wine to still be drinking them. What year did you stop?
Last vintage was 2018.
 
originally posted by Florida Jim:
This and that

2019 Jadot, Macon-Villages - The best QPR Chardonnay in the market today. Viscosity with cut, ripe flavors with sustain, beautiful textures and even some depth. I happened upon this by chance in a grocery store and now buy it by the case. Joyful wine, very well made.

This falls into an interesting and very useful category of wines I call "thank god" wines. E.G. You're traveling and stuck in a hotel restaurant with a mediocre wine list controlled by one distributor and you say to yourself "thank god they at least have that!" It's a class of well made wines, offering good value and very widely distributed. For me, other members include Guigal CdR, St Supery SB, some La Vieille Ferme wines, Steele Pacini Zin, Dry Creek Heritage Zin, La Crema Chard, Tangent SB, several Loosen Rieslings, Santa Rita's Casablanca Valley SB and PN, Mulderbosch rose', you get the idea.

2011 Cowan Cellars, Isa Lake County - Sauvignon Blanc, skin-fermented to dry. Since release, this wine has been all over the lot; at times too green, too tannic, too tight, etc. These days, it has shed its green yet still has an herbaceous note, integrated the tannin and become more generous. This will never be a mainstream wine but, at ten, it is a welcome change. Still Diane’s favorite wine I made.
The green streak is interesting, because relative lack of veggies is one of Lake County SB's hallmarks. (Not that I dislike veggies in SB, quite the contrary.) I find them occasionally from vineyards with heavier soils near the lake, but not often. Or as Jed Steele put it: "Lake County SB often tastes like it already has Semillon blended in."
 
Christian,
I’m stealing that “thank god” label.
The SB from Lake County was grown on bottom land (Big Valley AVA) but the skin-fermentation process pretty much obscures typicity. I think it’s just the pyrazines and, for some unknown reason, the process accentuates them for a time.
Best, jim
 
originally posted by Christian Miller (CMM):
This falls into an interesting and very useful category of wines I call "thank god" wines. E.G. You're traveling and stuck in a hotel restaurant with a mediocre wine list controlled by one distributor and you say to yourself "thank god they at least have that!" It's a class of well made wines, offering good value and very widely distributed. For me, other members include Guigal CdR, St Supery SB, some La Vieille Ferme wines, Steele Pacini Zin, Dry Creek Heritage Zin, La Crema Chard, Tangent SB, several Loosen Rieslings, Santa Rita's Casablanca Valley SB and PN, Mulderbosch rose', you get the idea.
Yes, indeed. Joel Gott. Liberty School. Random chianti (if a warm year) and random malbec (if a low-end bottling).

Good beer.
 
You guys are nailing it. Those serviceable wines that you beseechingly search for on a wine list when out for dinner with some non-wine geeks in a place where you’ve never been, especially in an academic setting where budgets are tight. Ridge Three Valleys is another I’d put in that category along with Drouhin St Veran.

Mark Lipton
 
originally posted by MLipton:
You guys are nailing it. Those serviceable wines that you beseechingly search for on a wine list when out for dinner with some non-wine geeks in a place where you’ve never been, especially in an academic setting where budgets are tight. Ridge Three Valleys is another I’d put in that category along with Drouhin St Veran.

Mark Lipton

Yup. Marques de Caceres Rioja Reserva and Rose' too. Plus anything by CVNE, but they seem to be more off-premise.
 
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