CWD: What did you drink last night (or whenever)?

originally posted by Jeff Grossman:
originally posted by Jim Hanlon:
This is a well made Beaujolais, but in a fruit-forward style. If there's structure and acid for aging, I can't see it through the fruit.
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I've got some '14 in storage, maybe it's time to try one.
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I expect the wine I had will be fine in five years. I'm thinking more a 15-20 year aging curve. Maybe the answer is just buy more Desvignes, especially since they've debuted new wines.
 
originally posted by Jim Hanlon:
2019 Yohan Lardy Moulin-a-Vent Vieilles Vignes de 1903: A new vigneron for me. I've been looking for a Moulin-a-Vent to cellar. There's Desvignes and Bouland in Morgon. Thivin in Cote de Brouilly. Roilette in Fleurie. Billards in St. Amour. But Moulin-a-Vent has long been considered one of the leading, and most ageworthy, crus, and I don't feel like I have a domaine working with that terroir in my cellar. (I know folks say that Roilette can be more like MaV than Fleurie, but still.) There are the Chateau des Jacques wines from Jadot, but those seem like the elevage is the thing. Every now and then I can buy a JP Brun wine from MaV, but I'd like to find a vigneron who's based in the village. All that windup, and I liked this wine, but don't think my search is over. This is a well made Beaujolais, but in a fruit-forward style. If there's structure and acid for aging, I can't see it through the fruit.
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Maybe Diochon?
 
originally posted by Jim Hanlon:
2019 Yohan Lardy Moulin-a-Vent Vieilles Vignes de 1903: A new vigneron for me. I've been looking for a Moulin-a-Vent to cellar. There's Desvignes and Bouland in Morgon. Thivin in Cote de Brouilly. Roilette in Fleurie. Billards in St. Amour. But Moulin-a-Vent has long been considered one of the leading, and most ageworthy, crus, and I don't feel like I have a domaine working with that terroir in my cellar. (I know folks say that Roilette can be more like MaV than Fleurie, but still.) There are the Chateau des Jacques wines from Jadot, but those seem like the elevage is the thing. Every now and then I can buy a JP Brun wine from MaV, but I'd like to find a vigneron who's based in the village. All that windup, and I liked this wine, but don't think my search is over. This is a well made Beaujolais, but in a fruit-forward style. If there's structure and acid for aging, I can't see it through the fruit.
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I may like this wine more than you do (haven't had 2019 yet, but have had other vintages) but I'm also not looking to age my Beaujolais that much anymore.
 
originally posted by Zachary Ross:
originally posted by Jim Hanlon:
2019 Yohan Lardy Moulin-a-Vent Vieilles Vignes de 1903: A new vigneron for me. I've been looking for a Moulin-a-Vent to cellar. There's Desvignes and Bouland in Morgon. Thivin in Cote de Brouilly. Roilette in Fleurie. Billards in St. Amour. But Moulin-a-Vent has long been considered one of the leading, and most ageworthy, crus, and I don't feel like I have a domaine working with that terroir in my cellar. (I know folks say that Roilette can be more like MaV than Fleurie, but still.) There are the Chateau des Jacques wines from Jadot, but those seem like the elevage is the thing. Every now and then I can buy a JP Brun wine from MaV, but I'd like to find a vigneron who's based in the village. All that windup, and I liked this wine, but don't think my search is over. This is a well made Beaujolais, but in a fruit-forward style. If there's structure and acid for aging, I can't see it through the fruit.
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Maybe Diochon?
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I've tried Diochon over the years and never been that impressed. Maybe I should try again.
 
originally posted by VLM:
originally posted by Jim Hanlon:
2019 Yohan Lardy Moulin-a-Vent Vieilles Vignes de 1903: A new vigneron for me. I've been looking for a Moulin-a-Vent to cellar. There's Desvignes and Bouland in Morgon. Thivin in Cote de Brouilly. Roilette in Fleurie. Billards in St. Amour. But Moulin-a-Vent has long been considered one of the leading, and most ageworthy, crus, and I don't feel like I have a domaine working with that terroir in my cellar. (I know folks say that Roilette can be more like MaV than Fleurie, but still.) There are the Chateau des Jacques wines from Jadot, but those seem like the elevage is the thing. Every now and then I can buy a JP Brun wine from MaV, but I'd like to find a vigneron who's based in the village. All that windup, and I liked this wine, but don't think my search is over. This is a well made Beaujolais, but in a fruit-forward style. If there's structure and acid for aging, I can't see it through the fruit.
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I may like this wine more than you do (haven't had 2019 yet, but have had other vintages) but I'm also not looking to age my Beaujolais that much anymore.
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If you're looking for a delicious, early drinking Beaujolais, this bottle ticked those boxes. And there's nothing wrong with that. I'm just curious about aged MaV.
 
originally posted by Jim Hanlon:
2019 Yohan Lardy Moulin-a-Vent Vieilles Vignes de 1903: A new vigneron for me. I've been looking for a Moulin-a-Vent to cellar. There's Desvignes and Bouland in Morgon. Thivin in Cote de Brouilly. Roilette in Fleurie. Billards in St. Amour. But Moulin-a-Vent has long been considered one of the leading, and most ageworthy, crus, and I don't feel like I have a domaine working with that terroir in my cellar. (I know folks say that Roilette can be more like MaV than Fleurie, but still.) There are the Chateau des Jacques wines from Jadot, but those seem like the elevage is the thing. Every now and then I can buy a JP Brun wine from MaV, but I'd like to find a vigneron who's based in the village. All that windup, and I liked this wine, but don't think my search is over. This is a well made Beaujolais, but in a fruit-forward style. If there's structure and acid for aging, I can't see it through the fruit.
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Jim, since you like Billards, are you familiar with Moulin-a-Vent the family produces? I don't recall the exact label; I don't think it's "Billards," but it is from the Barbet clan. When we visited ten years ago, we were treated to beautifully aged examples going back to '76.
 
2020 Hermann Ludes Thörnicher Ritsch Spätlese trocken
A fresh clean verdant salty crunchy feather of a wine. Walking a lovely line between delicate and juicy, the tension and the texture is so fine and an incredibly drinkable delight. Perfect with ramson ravioli, spring herb ravioli, roasted mushrooms and sauteed baby spinach.

My fourth Ludes bottling of 2020 and it's been going from strength to strength. Excited to try more/other vintages.
 
Inspired by the post on the Ludes Spätlese Trocken, I thought I would post my Spätlese Trocken ....

2016 Martin Müllen Trarbacher Hühnerberg Spätlese Trocken*

I worried it would be an awkward time to check in on a 2016er, but this was lovely. Minerals and some most interesting fruit flavors. Elderberry? Huckleberry? Whatever it is, it is a tart and woodsy berry like you'd pick trail side. And it's a flavor I get from the Hühnerberg time-and-time again.
 
originally posted by Pavel Tchichikov:
originally posted by Jim Hanlon:
2019 Yohan Lardy Moulin-a-Vent Vieilles Vignes de 1903: A new vigneron for me. I've been looking for a Moulin-a-Vent to cellar. There's Desvignes and Bouland in Morgon. Thivin in Cote de Brouilly. Roilette in Fleurie. Billards in St. Amour. But Moulin-a-Vent has long been considered one of the leading, and most ageworthy, crus, and I don't feel like I have a domaine working with that terroir in my cellar. (I know folks say that Roilette can be more like MaV than Fleurie, but still.) There are the Chateau des Jacques wines from Jadot, but those seem like the elevage is the thing. Every now and then I can buy a JP Brun wine from MaV, but I'd like to find a vigneron who's based in the village. All that windup, and I liked this wine, but don't think my search is over. This is a well made Beaujolais, but in a fruit-forward style. If there's structure and acid for aging, I can't see it through the fruit.
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Jim, since you like Billards, are you familiar with Moulin-a-Vent the family produces? I don't recall the exact label; I don't think it's "Billards," but it is from the Barbet clan. When we visited ten years ago, we were treated to beautifully aged examples going back to '76.
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This is a good idea, thanks. I do enjoy the Billards St. Amour. These wines rarely make it to the west coast, but if I'm sourcing the St. Amour, there's no reason not grab some MaV too.
 
Based in which village?
There is no Moulin à vent village. The cru is shared by Romanèches Thorin and Chénas.
Thillardon or Rottiers might be what you are looking for.
I think the wines are true to their terroir, without the sophistication of some of the best wines made by some Macon or Fleurie vignerons (a sign of transparency in my mind).
Chateau des Jacques is one of the most unbojo beaujolais that I have tried. Like most of the beaujolais wines made by Bourguignons driving down.
 
I agree Eric; I have yet to drink a Jadot Beaujolais that I came close to liking. Just hard. Actually, I take that back - I like their Beaujolais Village. But not the crus.
 
originally posted by Brézème:
Based in which village?
There is no Moulin à vent village. The cru is shared by Romanèches Thorin and Chénas.
Thillardon or Rottiers might be what you are looking for.
I think the wines are true to their terroir, without the sophistication of some of the best wines made by some Macon or Fleurie vignerons (a sign of transparency in my mind).
Chateau des Jacques is one of the most unbojo beaujolais that I have tried. Like most of the beaujolais wines made by Bourguignons driving down.
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Thanks, Eric (and BJ). Maybe I've already found my MaV in Roilette and Brun. I will revisit Thillardon and Rottiers.
 
Wasn't Roilette formerly Mav and, at some point, reclassified? Same, I think, with Vissoux Fleurie les Garants.

A pity Vissoux isn't for you; with Moulin, would be cool to try an aged bottle. I think I still have an '09 around (not really aged, but getting there) if you're traveling to the mid-Atlantic states any time soon.
 
originally posted by Ian Fitzsimmons:
Wasn't Roilette formerly Mav and, at some point, reclassified? Same, I think, with Vissoux Fleurie les Garants.

A pity Vissoux isn't for you; with Moulin, would be cool to try an aged bottle. I think I still have an '09 around (not really aged, but getting there) if you're traveling to the mid-Atlantic states any time soon.
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Thanks, Ian. I actually have 2009 Vissoux MaV Les Trois Roches myself. I'll give it another go, although usual disclaimers about 2009 and Beaujolais typicity probably apply.
 
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