CWD: What did you drink last night (or whenever)?

originally posted by Rahsaan:
originally posted by Larry Stein:
...saison...my go-to styles
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Agreed. I find saison to be the perfect blend of flavor and drinkability. Lagers and pilsners can be too boring, and I need to be in the right mood (usually something involving a hot day and beautiful scenery). Richer darker beers are plenty interesting, but can be tiring. Saisons come right down the middle by balancing all the virtues.

IPAs are the new oak spoof world of beer, and it's amazing to see so many otherwise fine palates in this thread endorse them! (Although I suppose at this point, the term IPA gets applied so broadly, it's hard to know what to expect, and certainly some of the more restrained examples can be delicious, even for me)
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We're an Einbecker Pils (and Mai-Ur-Bock in season) and Reissdorf (or Früh) Kölsch household. We used to do the whole line-up of Mahr's Bräu but they're not coming into our state anymore. Something to do with the Shelton Bros collapse. I also love an Anchor Steam but I don't see it here much anymore after the sale. It was also almost impossible to find in cans. From the tap at Swan might be the best beer in the world.

I also like Saison, but don't have a go to.
 
originally posted by VLM:

We're an Einbecker Pils (and Mai-Ur-Bock in season) and Reissdorf (or Früh) Kölsch household. We used to do the whole line-up of Mahr's Bräu but they're not coming into our state anymore. Something to do with the Shelton Bros collapse. I also love an Anchor Steam but I don't see it here much anymore after the sale...
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Dude! Unlike wine, you have so many excellent beer options within miles of your house in NC. And as someone 'afflicted' with a Eurocentric wine and spirits orientation, you should be happy to be able to patronize local breweries with fresh offerings. At least that's how I've felt.

My favorites have been Haw River and Burial, but so many options.
 
Surprised about the lack of love for Lager here. To me, Augustinerbräu Helles and Edelstoff are the equivalents to Clos des Briords. One can easily just down a few, but there is also plenty of interest in them - they are just less in your face than many of the craft beers. A lot of craft beers remind me of the early attempts in Germany to make "serious" red wine, by doing all the supposedly good things in extreme ways. They had to learn the importance of balance and restrained first. Fortunately, this next step seems to be happening in the beer world now, with a move away from the extreme alcohol levels and hoppiness. And I see more Lagers at our local breweries.
 
i like beers that taste like the primary ingredient is. . . .malt(!). radical, i know.

hence munich oktoberfests (ur marzens), samuel smith nut brown, in fact, pretty much the whole smauel smith line up, for instance. if i never drink another ipa, fine. i am through with beers that shout at me.
 
Guinness Stout and North Coast Scrimshaw Pilsner.
And almost nothing else.
But then, I may drink ten beers in a year.
Best, Jim
 
There are some good local craft brewery pilsners and lagers. When I'm close to running out, I'm always trying new ones (for me). However, one brewery, Berryessa Brewing Co, has grabbed my palate. Their pilsner "Propaganda Pilsner" and lager "Fast Pass to Helles" are both excellent.

Selection Massale brings in Brasserie de la Pigeonnelle from the Loire. I haven't seen their beers locally in quite a while. Everything they brew is superb. I should contact the local sales rep.
 
Funny to hear people categorize beer as spoof. I think of spoof as anti-terroir. There's no terroir with beer, unless you do a natural yeast ferment or grow the wheat and/or hops in a particular location.

So if you add a more roasted malt or less roasted - or smoked malt - or hops from Germany, Australia or anywhere - it's all a recipe. German beer "hopfen und malz gott erhalts" ok, but gott is growing those hopfen and malz somewhere and it isn't a GG field. It might even be in a different country!

So I'm not sure I understand the "malt good/hops bad" argument, unless it's simply personal taste.

Georg, I agree on excess alcohol - both in wine and in beer, it's not to my taste. There's certainly a similar mindset of 15+% zin and 9+% DIPA/TIPA. If some is good, more must be better - right?
 
originally posted by mlawton:
Funny to hear people categorize beer as spoof. I think of spoof as anti-terroir. There's no terroir with beer...There's certainly a similar mindset of 15+% zin and 9+% DIPA/TIPA. If some is good, more must be better - right?
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Strictly speaking, you are correct with the terroir point. My loose use of the word comes from the common thread of overdone simplistic flavors, which one finds in spoofy fruit bomb wines and spoofy hop-bomb IPAs. Whether or not it would withstand the rigorous attentions of someone like Wordsmith Loesberg is another story...
 
We writers never refer to ourselves as wordsmiths. I'm OK with extending spoof's concept, I guess. But my field informants--my nephew and his partner--really think in terms of their being over the top rather than making some judgment about how it's produced. They have also told me that there is some vague talk of producing beer with terroir, but the term really doesn't extend well and the idea came from wanting to be like wine, rather than from something integral to beer. I introduced the term spoof here, but I meant it as an analogy, as in the way they talk about IPA sounds like the way we talk about spoof. I think, from that perspective, they would assent to Rahsaan's usage. And since I have little interest in beer, except occasionally as a nice cold beverage on a hot summer night, I'm really just reporting what I've heard.
 
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sorry but i can't figure out how i uploaded the last photo and following these instructions only results in showing a blank page

thank you, MSA
 
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Our neighbor of 30 years celebrated birthday #86. huzzah!!

she has a fine palate, and though she is not one to imbibe more than once weekly,she knows good from bad.

thus we wished to share a special wine with her.

1983 Ch“teau d'Yquem (750 ml): caramel colored in case photo not visible. cork completely wet and removed easily with the contraption named after a band from my boyhood neighborhood. apricot dominating nose and palate with soft landing upon drinking . moderate sweetness (and certainly not overbearing) and acidity not very apparent, but clearly a balanced wine. lovely and blessed to share with said neighbor.

last week we gave her a aliquot from a 1990 Lafarge Chenes. served blind so she would not know how old it was, otherwise the label is meaningless to her. she raved.

she is happy to share wine with us and has not asked for an IPA.

later today we hope to have Dupasquier Marestel with grilled cheese sandwiches
 
originally posted by Mark Anisman: sorry but i can't figure out how i uploaded the last photo and following these instructions only results in showing a blank page
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Mark, on the page you upload, copy the first link shown and paste it into the message you are composing.

. . . . . Pete
 
originally posted by Larry Stein:
There are some good local craft brewery pilsners and lagers. When I'm close to running out, I'm always trying new ones (for me). However, one brewery, Berryessa Brewing Co, has grabbed my palate. Their pilsner "Propaganda Pilsner" and lager "Fast Pass to Helles" are both excellent.

Selection Massale brings in Brasserie de la Pigeonnelle from the Loire. I haven't seen their beers locally in quite a while. Everything they brew is superb. I should contact the local sales rep.
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Sierra Nevada's Vienna Lager, when they have it, is excellent. As is Ocean View's Schwarzbier Lager, although that might be a bit heavy-handed for a Pilsner fan.
 
I am a big Lager and Pilsner fan. A few i really like are Von Trapp Lager, Jever Pilsener (german, excellent)Machine Czech Pilsner from Bunker Brewing in Maine is excellent too.
 
originally posted by Jayson Cohen: CWD: What did you drink last night? wine drinking experiences
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Apologies for hijacking this thread and responding to the worthwhile original subject. The Keller Riesling Trocken Von der Fels Vom Boden '13 was superb -- light golden color, good aromas, full, ample acid and fruit in balance, danced nicely across and past the palate, deliciously in its ideal drinking window. [E]

Inspired pairing with lightly fried anchovies, broiled asparagus, hummus, and then cranberry cookies with blueberries.

. . . . . . Pete
 
originally posted by MLipton:
Baching it tonight, it was a bottle of 2013 Beurer Stettner Riesling Trocken, most refreshing. and with a saline quality. Distinctly moreish, to use an Otto-ism.

Mark Lipton
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is that the one with a white label? if so, I may still have a bottle of the '13, and it's aged beyond expectation.
 
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