CWD: What did you drink last night (or whenever)?

originally posted by Jim Hanlon:
originally posted by Brézème:
Based in which village?
There is no Moulin à vent village. The cru is shared by Romanèches Thorin and Chénas.
Thillardon or Rottiers might be what you are looking for.
I think the wines are true to their terroir, without the sophistication of some of the best wines made by some Macon or Fleurie vignerons (a sign of transparency in my mind).
Chateau des Jacques is one of the most unbojo beaujolais that I have tried. Like most of the beaujolais wines made by Bourguignons driving down.
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Thanks, Eric (and BJ). Maybe I've already found my MaV in Roilette and Brun. I will revisit Thillardon and Rottiers.
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Last night's 2020 Thillardon Moulin-à-Vent Sous la Roche was a paragon of ethereal beauty in the Métras style - pale but effusively flavorful, transparent wild strawberry and light spices, joyous. After a few hours the back end showed natty-style nuttiness, which aggrieves me, but this was so delicious I forgive it.
 
2007 Gauby Cotes de Roussillon Villages Vieilles Vignes: Sometimes a wine surprises you. I don't recall why I bought this, but I generally shy away from Carignan as a lead grape and I don't buy much at all from the Roussillon. This was really exceptional. One of those magical moments where the wine is awake and inviting immediately. It was so good, I almost wished I hadn't opened it at home, so I could share it with others. If you happen to have a bottle, you're lucky. Open it this year.

1998 Poderi Colla Bricco del Drago: After a great experience with the Gauby, I decided to try this bottle of esoterica, which had been hanging around my home cellar for quite a while. Bought it a few years ago for not so many dollars. But a Dolcetto-dominated wine at almost 25 years old? Unlike the Gauby, it was not friendly on opening. Very quiet. Nothing offensive, just not much presence. I set it aside overnight in the fridge, and the next day it had opened up quite a bit. I guess that's Piemonte for you. Still didn't approach the heights of the Gauby, but drank as a subtle and even sort of complex Piemontese wine. Would I like it better if it was all Nebbiolo? Maybe. Would I have enjoyed this wine more 10 years ago? Maybe, perhaps likely. But I'm glad I got to spend time with it and didn't have trouble finishing the bottle.
 
originally posted by Jim Hanlon:
I generally shy away from Carignan as a lead grape and I don't buy much at all from the Roussillon.
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you do? I find Carignan-dominant wines cool, both literally and figuratively, but perhaps I am thinking especially of Roussillon in this context. They stand out as more crunchy, black-and-small-berried, and at least appear to be lower in octane although I can't vouch for the numbers off the top of my head. Nor should you shy away from Carignan Blanc in the Roussillon, whatever is left of it...

nice notes
 
Maxime Magnon's Corbières Campagnès is outstanding (100% Carignan, vines over 100 years old). I also enjoy Ferrer-Ribière's very old-vine Carignan VdP Cotes Catalanes "Empreinte du Temps" - the vines here are something like 135 years old.
 
2013 Clos Roche Blanche Pif: Often when I hear someone use the term "wine of contemplation," my BS meter goes off. But that term really applies here. This wine has a lot to say, but you have to lean in. The antithesis of a wine dinner champion. A bit more open knit on Day 2, but more complex on Day 1. If you have more than one, consider opening a bottle now. If you only have one, I'd wait until it's 15. Please drink it by itself, and not in a hurry.
 
2015 Birichino Cinsault Bechthold Vineyard: This is a 19th century, own-rooted planting that I and others have praised over the years. The wine drinks extremely well on release, but I can't help aging some. This is the oldest I've had. Drank pretty dark fruited, which was a surprise, but I don't remember this vintage when it was young. Usually the wine is more on the red fruit side. Still holding together, but hasn't reached a higher gear. Under screwcap.

2013 Dolde Riesling Brauner Jura: This wine, on the other hand, has reached a higher gear. Like licking a rock, but in a really delicious, fresh way. I can't remember a wine that better combined mineral flavor with sheer drinkability. Sure, there are more complex dry Rieslings, but I'm not sure there are any more enjoyable. This wine knocked me over, and I don't really even like dry Riesling in general. Also under screwcap. If you have any, consider opening a bottle this year.

2012 Duplessis Chablis Vaillons: A little grumpy on opening -- presented as kind of fat and disjointed. Settled down quickly, though, as a Chablis that paired some power with typicity really well. No oxidation, and perhaps still improving.

2013 Debize Apinost: Drinking wines from domaines that are no more is so often bittersweet. This bottle from Bruno Debize is drinking very well, and will for some time. Still Beaujolais, as it should be. Understated, but with real depth. A wine that really encourages attention without demanding it. Should have at least a decade left, but I'm not sure it will drink better than it does today.
 
originally posted by Pavel Tchichikov:
out of '13 dolde here, but have the '14 - does that mean I need to wait exactly one year? :-)

all hail bruno debize
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I know you're mostly joking on the Dolde. I don't have 14 and haven't drunk one of his 13s is several years. I've tended to favor his Silvaners, which is one reason this bottle of Riesling knocked me over. I do still have some of his Spatburgunders. Time to check in on one.
 
With a simple dinner of roast chicken and stir-fried veggies I opened a 2010 Pavelot Savigny-les-Beaune which was punching way above its weight. Silken texture, rich red fruit and earthy sous-bois flavors and floral overtones on the nose. For a village-level wine it displayed surprising depth and persistence. It has yet to pick up much in the way of tertiary character, but as appealing as it is now I would be hard pressed to wait many more years on it.

Mark Lipton
 
originally posted by MLipton:
With a simple dinner of roast chicken and stir-fried veggies I opened a 2010 Pavelot Savigny-les-Beaune which was punching way above its weight. Silken texture, rich red fruit and earthy sous-bois flavors and floral overtones on the nose. For a village-level wine it displayed surprising depth and persistence. It has yet to pick up much in the way of tertiary character, but as appealing as it is now I would be hard pressed to wait many more years on it.

Mark Lipton
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just yesterday a friend and i were discussing the unpredictability in opening 2010 reds burgs
the range is from glorious complex fruit explosions to what the fuck were you thinking pulling this cork you moron, and it's nothing to do with ultimate quality or even village vs 1er vs GC
some of us who have put on a little extra weight over the years will tell you it's the winemaking vs refreshing lack thereof
so it's on a case by case basis for me, which is to say notes such as above are much appreciated
 
originally posted by Pavel Tchichikov:
originally posted by MLipton:
With a simple dinner of roast chicken and stir-fried veggies I opened a 2010 Pavelot Savigny-les-Beaune which was punching way above its weight. Silken texture, rich red fruit and earthy sous-bois flavors and floral overtones on the nose. For a village-level wine it displayed surprising depth and persistence. It has yet to pick up much in the way of tertiary character, but as appealing as it is now I would be hard pressed to wait many more years on it.

Mark Lipton
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just yesterday a friend and i were discussing the unpredictability in opening 2010 reds burgs
the range is from glorious complex fruit explosions to what the fuck were you thinking pulling this cork you moron, and it's nothing to do with ultimate quality or even village vs 1er vs GC
some of us who have put on a little extra weight over the years will tell you it's the winemaking vs refreshing lack thereof
so it's on a case by case basis for me, which is to say notes such as above are much appreciated
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I like Pavelot quite a bit -- they represent good value in today's Burgundy. But I do find them hard to gauge on whether a bottle will be drinking. Even with relatively consistent winemaking, I'm often guessing. So my general strategy is just age them a long time. But I wish I had them more figured out.
 
2018 Mathieu Apffel Terroir de Saint-Alban: Blend of Jacquese and Altesse. Light, minerally, and not very complicated. Fresh and very drinkable. Wouldn't age it any longer. Nice, authentic wine.

2014 Dirty and Rowdy Mourvedre Antle Vineyard: Baking spices, akin to an older wine with significant stem inclusion, and strawberry. I thought it lacked a little freshness, but the bottle held well into a second day. So there may still be more here. Enjoyable as it is, but this bottle lacked the energy of Hardy's most memorable wines.
 
originally posted by Pavel Tchichikov:
originally posted by MLipton:
With a simple dinner of roast chicken and stir-fried veggies I opened a 2010 Pavelot Savigny-les-Beaune which was punching way above its weight. Silken texture, rich red fruit and earthy sous-bois flavors and floral overtones on the nose. For a village-level wine it displayed surprising depth and persistence. It has yet to pick up much in the way of tertiary character, but as appealing as it is now I would be hard pressed to wait many more years on it.

Mark Lipton
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just yesterday a friend and i were discussing the unpredictability in opening 2010 reds burgs
the range is from glorious complex fruit explosions to what the fuck were you thinking pulling this cork you moron, and it's nothing to do with ultimate quality or even village vs 1er vs GC
some of us who have put on a little extra weight over the years will tell you it's the winemaking vs refreshing lack thereof
so it's on a case by case basis for me, which is to say notes such as above are much appreciated
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That's most interesting. I'm just starting to broach my '10s, with all those 1ers still in subterranean slumber. Curiously (perhaps) my experience with opening '10s is better than my experience opening '08s. Of course, I'm still waiting on several '07s, mostly from Chandon de Briailles, so WTF do I know?

Mark Lipton
 
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