NWR: Stereo Disorder Question

there's more to spem in alium than meets the ear. . .

i just purchased used cd of 'spem in alium' performed by harry christophers and the sixteen, having lost my original copy to the dumping of my cassette collection some years past.

the cd (CORSACD16016) has two versions, as there were new lyrics put to it for the coronation of henry I on 04 june 1610.

they go thusly:

sing and glorify heaven's highest majesty,
author of this blessed harmony.
sound divine praises with melodious graces,
this is the day, holy day, happy day.
for ever give it greeting, love and joy,
heart and voice meeting.
live henry, princely and mighty!
henry live in thy creation happy!
 
originally posted by Oswaldo Costa:
originally posted by Ian Fitzsimmons:
I'm glad you listened to it, Pavel, and that it was worth your while.
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Pavel?
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The post from me, quoted in yours, responded to another one, at that time immediately preceding it, from the board participant who styles him- or herself "Pavel Tchichikov." "Pavel" wrote that s/he'd listed to Spem in Alium, had found it to be beautiful, but thought the Latin word spem sounded pretty darned funny - or words to that effect.

I see now that "Pavel" has since deleted his or her post. Why "Pavel" would delete a post on such an innocuous topic is a question that invites fanciful speculation.

Maybe "Pavel" prefers to be associated exclusively with issues of great moment and weighty substance, like what wine you drank yesterday. Maybe "Pavel" harbors an abiding reverence for Elizabeth Regina I, and was dismayed at having inadvertently praised a composer militating in favor of the anti-protestant party of that age. Perhaps, upon mature reflection, s/he decided that 'spem' sounded too much like 'sperm' to allow his/her pseudonym to be associated with it in a public forum - you can never be too careful these days, after all.

The mind boggles at the numberless possible explanations.

God bless the good "Pavel."
 
originally posted by Ian Fitzsimmons:
originally posted by Oswaldo Costa:
originally posted by Ian Fitzsimmons:
I'm glad you listened to it, Pavel, and that it was worth your while.
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Pavel?
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The post from me, quoted in yours, responded to another one, at that time immediately preceding it, from the board participant who styles him- or herself "Pavel Tchichikov." "Pavel" wrote that s/he'd listed to Spem in Alium, had found it to be beautiful, but thought the Latin word spem sounded pretty darned funny - or words to that effect.

I see now that "Pavel" has since deleted his or her post. Why "Pavel" would delete a post on such an innocuous topic is a question that invites fanciful speculation.

Maybe "Pavel" prefers to be associated exclusively with issues of great moment and weighty substance, like what wine you drank yesterday. Maybe "Pavel" harbors an abiding reverence for Elizabeth Regina I, and was dismayed at having inadvertently praised a composer militating in favor of the anti-protestant party of that age. Perhaps, upon mature reflection, s/he decided that 'spem' sounded too much like 'sperm' to allow his/her pseudonym to be associated with it in a public forum - you can never be too careful these days, after all.

The mind boggles at the numberless possible explanations.

God bless the good "Pavel."
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Actually, that post was mine, written, I believe, under my own name. It should still be up there somewhere. Maybe that's why you can no longer find Pavel's.
 
Right you are.

The question of why Ian would err so egregiously in such a simple matter invites fanciful speculation.

Maybe Ian is suffering from premature Alzheimer's. Maybe he harbors such a deep and irrational resentment toward Russian-named American poets that his vitriol spills over uncontrollably at their every invocation. Maybe Ian is a cynical old boozer with a mean streak.

The mind boggles at the numberless possible explanations.

Heartfelt apologies, Pavel.

Glad you listened to Spem, Jonathan, and that it was worth your while.
 
a sort of relevant question:

why have so few concerts that were available in vhs format not been offered in dvd:

for instance, neil young's blazingly brillant and deafening concert album called "weld"?

also his second 'unplugged" concert.

etc.
 
originally posted by robert ames:
a sort of relevant question:

why have so few concerts that were available in vhs format not been offered in dvd:

for instance, neil young's blazingly brillant and deafening concert album called "weld"?

also his second 'unplugged" concert.

etc.
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Frequently the answer here is associated rights. A studio is a controlled environment in more ways than one.
 
so can the rights to concert movies be somehow different to movies in general? pretty much every movie ever made can be found on dvd.
 
originally posted by robert ames:
so can the rights to concert movies be somehow different to movies in general? pretty much every movie ever made can be found on dvd.
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yes. A movie studio is set up, like a recording studio, to control is property rights. A concert is much harder to do.

For example; for decades classical music concerts had standard contracts for radio relays of specific concerts. No other methods of reproduction would be licensed. So should a concert become desirable as a commercial recording all parties would need to agree. Thus the market for pirates.
 
originally posted by Tristan Welles:
originally posted by robert ames:
so can the rights to concert movies be somehow different to movies in general? pretty much every movie ever made can be found on dvd.
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yes. A movie studio is set up, like a recording studio, to control is property rights. A concert is much harder to do.

For example; for decades classical music concerts had standard contracts for radio relays of specific concerts. No other methods of reproduction would be licensed. So should a concert become desirable as a commercial recording all parties would need to agree. Thus the market for pirates.
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thanks for the explanation.
 
Just to put a ribbon on the thread, I finally got my system working last night (long story why it's taken so long). It's bare-bones: wifi direct to Andover Songbird streamer and DAC, run through the Akitika amp, into Elac UB52 speakers, controlled from my phone.

The sound is great across different genres - Vivaldi, Doc Watson, Radiohead, the Marias, Miles Davis, etc., etc. Once it was running, I just bathed in music for an hour. To my ear, the Akitika-Elac combination is nicely balanced, yielding delicious precision and detail, together with very specific instrument placement. Granted I'm a consumer with limited prior experience in things audio, beyond a few blue-tooth rigs. But I was happy.

Schitt's production of the multi-bit Modi DAC is delayed by months, because of supply chain impediments, but I have an order pending and hope to make this additional upgrade later in the year.

Thanks for the board's forbearance with this NWR thread, the many on-topic responses, as well as the general discussion.
 
originally posted by Ian Fitzsimmons: forbearance with this NWR thread
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Extraneous postings are often a welcome departure from main-topic discussions, especially if folks are forewarned with a "NWR" or "XP" tag on the thread topic. There's no downside as forewarned readers can easily avoid off-topic threads if they so wish.

. . . . . . Pete
 
originally posted by Odd Rydland:
My general advice for cables is to order them long enough.

Listening to Brahms Quartets by the Dudok Quartet on Qobuz now (they seem to be generally available on streaming services). Gut strings and really superb and well blended ensemble sound. Some old C-J transistor amp and a pair of Vienna Beethoven first generation speakers (approx 20 years old).
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Thanks for the recommendation about the Dudok Quartet - they are young, enthusiastic and very good indeed. I quite like this arrangement of the Beethoven 4th Piano Concerto for piano & string quartet

Beethoven 4th Piano Concerto Arranged for piano and string quartet

True, it's only you YouTube, so sound quality ain't the best, but with music-making of this caliber, who cares?
 
originally posted by Andrew Zachary:
originally posted by Odd Rydland:
My general advice for cables is to order them long enough.

Listening to Brahms Quartets by the Dudok Quartet on Qobuz now (they seem to be generally available on streaming services). Gut strings and really superb and well blended ensemble sound. Some old C-J transistor amp and a pair of Vienna Beethoven first generation speakers (approx 20 years old).
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Thanks for the recommendation about the Dudok Quartet - they are young, enthusiastic and very good indeed. I quite like this arrangement of the Beethoven 4th Piano Concerto for piano & string quartet

Beethoven 4th Piano Concerto Arranged for piano and string quartet

True, it's only you YouTube, so sound quality ain't the best, but with music-making of this caliber, who cares?
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The Beethoven 4th Piano Concerto arranged for String Quartet was really good and very interesting. I'm often on the lookout for transcriptions like this for other instruments. Thanks!
 
originally posted by Peter Metzger:

The Beethoven 4th Piano Concerto arranged for String Quartet was really good and very interesting. I'm often on the lookout for transcriptions like this for other instruments. Thanks!
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there is a fantastic transcription of beethoven's 14th quartet for a string orchestra (with a catchy "Searching for Ludwig" album name) done by Kremerata Baltica
 
originally posted by Jeff Grossman:
May I safely assume everyone has heard the Liszt piano transcriptions of the Beethoven symphonies?
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They are actually good! Which is more than I can say ( and surprisingly so ), for his transcription of the Tannhauser overture I've just listened to. Gets carried away with virtuostic opportunities at the cost of capturing the spirit of the thing, as Dicky Dunn would say it.
 
originally posted by Andrew Zachary:
originally posted by Odd Rydland:
My general advice for cables is to order them long enough.

Listening to Brahms Quartets by the Dudok Quartet on Qobuz now (they seem to be generally available on streaming services). Gut strings and really superb and well blended ensemble sound. Some old C-J transistor amp and a pair of Vienna Beethoven first generation speakers (approx 20 years old).
Click to expand...

Thanks for the recommendation about the Dudok Quartet - they are young, enthusiastic and very good indeed. I quite like this arrangement of the Beethoven 4th Piano Concerto for piano & string quartet

Beethoven 4th Piano Concerto Arranged for piano and string quartet

True, it's only you YouTube, so sound quality ain't the best, but with music-making of this caliber, who cares?
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a recommendation for a recent CD release (older recording, but excellent sound). Suk Trio playing all of Beethoven's piano trios. Simply excellent. The allegro moderato opening for the Archduke takes a pace that seems the only one possible, once heard. The largo in #5 is sublime. The cello balance (in the recording) is not recessed. There is a quality of ardor in the playing that could be called Central European which eludes some of my favorite trios. And had this been late period LvB, perhaps the Suk might not be first choice, but here they are. The ensemble is never in doubt. I even enjoy the non-piano trio trios (the Gassenhauer, variations), which I normally can take or leave. This was free on Amazon streaming a while back, so you can sample before buying. I might have otherwise missed it. Now it is favorite music.
 
originally posted by Ian Fitzsimmons:


Thanks for the board's forbearance with this NWR thread, the many on-topic responses, as well as the general discussion.
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Oh for fuck's sake. This is WD!
 
originally posted by Tristan Welles:
originally posted by Andrew Zachary:
originally posted by Odd Rydland:
My general advice for cables is to order them long enough.

Listening to Brahms Quartets by the Dudok Quartet on Qobuz now (they seem to be generally available on streaming services). Gut strings and really superb and well blended ensemble sound. Some old C-J transistor amp and a pair of Vienna Beethoven first generation speakers (approx 20 years old).
Click to expand...

Thanks for the recommendation about the Dudok Quartet - they are young, enthusiastic and very good indeed. I quite like this arrangement of the Beethoven 4th Piano Concerto for piano & string quartet

Beethoven 4th Piano Concerto Arranged for piano and string quartet

True, it's only you YouTube, so sound quality ain't the best, but with music-making of this caliber, who cares?
Click to expand...

a recommendation for a recent CD release (older recording, but excellent sound). Suk Trio playing all of Beethoven's piano trios. Simply excellent. The allegro moderato opening for the Archduke takes a pace that seems the only one possible, once heard. The largo in #5 is sublime. The cello balance (in the recording) is not recessed. There is a quality of ardor in the playing that could be called Central European which eludes some of my favorite trios. And had this been late period LvB, perhaps the Suk might not be first choice, but here they are. The ensemble is never in doubt. I even enjoy the non-piano trio trios (the Gassenhauer, variations), which I normally can take or leave. This was free on Amazon streaming a while back, so you can sample before buying. I might have otherwise missed it. Now it is favorite music.
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Tristan, the Suk Trio's performance of the Beethoven Piano Trios is available on Spotify:

Suk Trio Beethoven Piano Trios
 
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