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Peter Creasey

Peter Creasey
Just landed some Dom Ott Romassan Bandol Rose '21. Everything I read about this wine sounds appealing.

Will look forward to trying it...once I decide what it's best to serve with...and when.

. . . . . . Pete
 
I've had this a couple of times. It's a perfectly nice rosé. It did not rock my world. Drink it as you would any other rosé. Maybe it's better with twenty years on it, but I doubt I will find that out.
 
originally posted by Peter Creasey:
Ott Bandol
Just landed some Dom Ott Romassan Bandol Rose '21. Everything I read about this wine sounds appealing.

Will look forward to trying it...once I decide what it's best to serve with...and when.

. . . . . . Pete
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I think it is best served with good company and a view of the Mediterranean
 
originally posted by JasonA: I think it is best served with good company and a view of the Mediterranean
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Ah, yes, if only. And served along with pasta, pizza, sausage, gyros, kebab, and/or falafel.

. . . . . . Pete
 
originally posted by JasonA:
originally posted by Peter Creasey:
Ott Bandol
Just landed some Dom Ott Romassan Bandol Rose '21. Everything I read about this wine sounds appealing.

Will look forward to trying it...once I decide what it's best to serve with...and when.

. . . . . . Pete
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I think it is best served with good company and a view of the Mediterranean
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Yes, under those circumstances, I'm sure it's delicious, as would be the plonk rose at the nearest bar tabac.
 
originally posted by JasonA:
originally posted by Peter Creasey:
Ott Bandol
Just landed some Dom Ott Romassan Bandol Rose '21. Everything I read about this wine sounds appealing.

Will look forward to trying it...once I decide what it's best to serve with...and when.

. . . . . . Pete
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I think it is best served with good company and a view of the Mediterranean
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Isn't every thing?
 
originally posted by MarkS:
originally posted by JasonA:
originally posted by Peter Creasey:
Ott Bandol
Just landed some Dom Ott Romassan Bandol Rose '21. Everything I read about this wine sounds appealing.

Will look forward to trying it...once I decide what it's best to serve with...and when.

. . . . . . Pete
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I think it is best served with good company and a view of the Mediterranean
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Isn't every thing?
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Of course. But in that case you don’t care that you are drinking industrial plonk.
 
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. . . . . . Pete
 
Pete,
I am not an Ott fan although I’ve not had a bottle in quite some time.
If you like rose may I suggest:

Amaztoi Rubentis Rosado
Clos Cibonne Rose Tradition or Vignettes
Lopez de Heredia Rosado
Domaine Tempier
Clos Saint Magdeleine Cotes de Provence.

I have found these five to have a bit more character.
Surely there are others I’m not aware of, too.
Best, Jim
 
originally posted by Florida Jim:
Pete,
I am not an Ott fan although I’ve not had a bottle in quite some time.
If you like rose may I suggest:

Amaztoi Rubentis Rosado
Clos Cibonne Rose Tradition or Vignettes
Lopez de Heredia Rosado
Domaine Tempier
Clos Saint Magdeleine Cotes de Provence.

I have found these five to have a bit more character.
Surely there are others I’m not aware of, too.
Best, Jim
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All excellent suggestions with a wide range of styles. All better than Ott. When we were in NC the Ameztoi Rubentis was a house favorite all summer (on ice, 'course).
 
originally posted by mark e:
originally posted by Florida Jim:
Pete,
I am not an Ott fan although I’ve not had a bottle in quite some time.
If you like rose may I suggest:

Amaztoi Rubentis Rosado
Clos Cibonne Rose Tradition or Vignettes
Lopez de Heredia Rosado
Domaine Tempier
Clos Saint Magdeleine Cotes de Provence.

I have found these five to have a bit more character.
Surely there are others I’m not aware of, too.
Best, Jim
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All excellent suggestions with a wide range of styles. All better than Ott. When we were in NC the Ameztoi Rubentis was a house favorite all summer (on ice, 'course).
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Ameztoi been my go to summer rosé for years but this years release I found notably green and the least appealing version in a while. Historically it seems to have been pretty consistent.
 
originally posted by Larry Stein:
The issue with LdH Rosado is it's become a cult wine with commensurate secondary market prices.
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Cult for sure, but with hostage-wine potential when that power is wielded appropriately.

When I was running a wine retail program a few years ago, I requested three lousy bottles of the LdH Rosado, one for me and one for each of my colleagues. I'd used Cubillo for the wine club and also hand-sold cases of the LdH Tondonia and Gravonia Blancos as well as however many boxes of the Tondonia and Boscania reds. My rep came back and said his sales manager didn't feel we were supporting Rombauer enough so there would be no Rosado for us. Whatevs....nine months later it dawned on them that our orders were down about $45K during that period. In fact, they noted that there had been NO orders. "Is there a problem?" they asked. I told them that we our shop had a "no rosado, no nothin" policy in place. Somehow they were able to allocate us a 6-pack of Rosado that afternoon, and in a magnanimous show of good faith, bonhomie and no-hard-feelings, the shop now goes through a case of Rombauer Zinfandel every month. I guess this means that everyone was right and we all triumphed in the end, but it's still a messed-up system.

WRT rosé in general, Tempier is the ne plus ultra of pink wine for me, but I've become a big fan of Clos Cibonne. The rosé from The Language of Yes (Randall Grahm's project) contains a noticeable proportion of Tibouren, and although priced aspirationally, it delivers appropriately. I would add rosés from Center of Effort and Trail Marker Wine (made by Drew Huffine, winemaker at Liocco) to my list of good pink wines worth a few gyrations to track down.

I also like the rosés-that-don't-know-they're-rosés like Emidio Pepe and Ch. Simone that have the propensity to evolve in the cellar. But their unicorn status sends their pricing veering toward the extortionate, and good luck finding them in the first place anyway.

-Eden (y'know, what with hindsight and all, it's just a whole lot easier buying bottles of Brundlmayer or Von Winning rosé and enjoying the rest of the summer without any the existential angst incurred in acquiring the "right" rosé to make me look like I'm a Serious Wine Person on my Insta feed)
 
Good suggestions, Jim. I'll add a perennial favorite of Baudry's Chinon rosé. I just sprang for current release bottles of Bedrock's Ode to Lulu, Tablas Creek's Patelin de Tablas rosé and a couple of Steve's latest Bone-Jolly for comparison. The latest Rubentis that we tried was fine, but very light.

Mark Lipton
 
If one is partial to Bandol rosé, I suggest Bastide Blanche (I also like their vineyard designated reds). They are quite reasonably priced and do taste like Bandol rosé. I could see springing for a Tempier. Never for an Ott.
 
originally posted by Bill Lundstrom:
My go to rose has become Bermejos Roasado from the Canary Islands. David Bowler import.
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Could you say a little more about this one - I’ve not heard of it?
 
originally posted by Florida Jim:
Pete,
I am not an Ott fan although I’ve not had a bottle in quite some time.
If you like rose may I suggest:

Amaztoi Rubentis Rosado
Clos Cibonne Rose Tradition or Vignettes
Lopez de Heredia Rosado
Domaine Tempier
Clos Saint Magdeleine Cotes de Provence.

I have found these five to have a bit more character.
Surely there are others I’m not aware of, too.
Best, Jim
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Yay for all of the above, except I haven't had Clos Saint Magdelaine. That said, I consider Domaine Tempier and LdH terrific wines but not great rose', at least for the reasons I most enjoy rose'. They are actually too grand and complex. My favorite rose' wines have a combination of color, fruit, quaffability plus some small element of complexity of mouthfeel to give it interest. All at a price that encourages opening one on the slightest pretext and not regretting polishing off a bottle without really paying attention to it.

For example:
Lange Twins Lodi Sangiovese Rosé
St. Amant Amador Barbera Rosé
Beausejour (Chauveau) Chinon Rosé
Warwick Rosé of Pinotage
Les Bourgeois (Missouri) Dry Rosé of St. Vincent
Huntington River (Vermont) Frontenac Gris
Emma Pearl Santa Barbara Rosé of Pinot Noir
Matchbook Dunnigan Hills Rosé
Domaine de la Masse, Ch. de Brossay and Ch. De la Genaiserie Cabernet d'Anjou
CVNE Rioja Rosado
Trinquevedel Tavel
SANS Lake County Carignan Rosé (can)
M Regina Cotes de Toul Gris VV (Charles Neal import)
Le Roc Fronton Rosé
Robert & Marcel Saumur Rosé (Grape Expectations import; the red is pretty great value too)
Whoever makes Trader Joe's Tavel
A bunch of Navarra and Carinena rosés that I never wrote down.
 
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