Wine impressions 8-15-22

Florida Jim

Florida Jim
Wine impressions 8-15-22

2019 Vincent, Pinot Noir Ribbon Ridge - every bottle is better than the last and the first one was outstanding. I just can’t get enough of this wine.

2016 Dirty & Rowdy, Mourvèdre Enz Vineyard - if you taste it by itself the tannin is evident; if you have it with food it resolves and shows more character driven with juicy fruit and depth. I still have two magnums of this that deserve more time but that initial impression I had, that the tannin would likely not resolve, was wrong.

2008 Cowan Cellars, Skin-fermented Sauvignon Blanc - this spent minimal time in elevage and it kept the fruit more forward than the Isa bottlings which were this wine’s successors. But 14 years in bottle has allowed it to develop more complexity and a sort of poached pear flavor. Markedly more interesting and delicious than three years ago.

2017 Cowan Cellars, Syrah Bennett Valley - the first bottle of this vintage that has shown open and ready. Typical BV boysenberry fruit but now with some layered earth and olive tones. Quite intense and is best with food.

2015 Cowan Cellars, Syrah Bennett Valley - where the ‘17 is intense and powerful this is deft and graceful; still a mouthful of BV fruit but a lighter hand and a good bit more layered. Elegant and easy to drink even without food.
(Aside: the two preceding Syrahs were made from the same rows of fruit in exactly the same way. Discounting the two years of age, they are a lesson in vintage contrast.)

2021 Ameztoi, Rubentis - rose from the Basque country. While the clarity and cut is good there is an off vegetal scent/flavor very much like green pepper and fouls the wine. Poured it down the drain.

2019 Louis Michel, Chablis Clos- sure it’s early but this was surprisingly generous with excellent concentration and balance. Not giving all but giving plenty. Lovely wine.

2012 Cowan Cellars, Ribolla Gialla - 100% skin-fermented; deep copper color; a quiet wine that emphasizes nuance over density, none of the phenolics of most orange wines but rather a soft, tangerine skin, brown spice kind of delivery with a light texture and a complex finish. I like this wine now more than I ever have but I have always liked it.

1995 Capri, Sagrantino 25 Anni - the last bottle of a case. At 27, this has become resolved and outstanding - after years of fierce tannins, and not much else, this is fully realized with plenty of trebles and midrange to balance with the dark power. A great wine now - and I say that without hesitation. But waiting 27 years is . . . daunting.

2018 Harrington, Sagrantino - this was served alongside the Capri and it was a clear lesson in terroir and experience. I still like this wine but it isn’t in the same world as the Italian version.

2019 Dom. Pepiere, Muscadet Clisson - decanted one hour and it made a difference; the intensity and precision here are at Grand Cru Chablis levels, the clarity and energy in the wine is exceptional and the finish is dynamic. I know this ages well but it will take a lot of discipline for my bottles to get there. Maybe the single most impressive white I’ve had this year.

Best, Jim
 
originally posted by Florida Jim:
Wine impressions 8-15-22
2019 Dom. Pepiere, Muscadet Clisson - decanted one hour and it made a difference; the intensity and precision here are at Grand Cru Chablis levels, the clarity and energy in the wine is exceptional and the finish is dynamic. I know this ages well but it will take a lot of discipline for my bottles to get there. Maybe the single most impressive white I’ve had this year.
I don't drink much GC Chablis so I can't really speak to the comparison, but at 13.5% ABV it does seem out of balance and too big in scale; it is my least favorite Clisson from Pépière. I'd be interested to hear how others find it. I will not be buying it again and will gladly go back to drinking recent vintages of Briords.
 
originally posted by Florida Jim:
Mark,
While we disagree on this Clisson we do agree on the Briords.
Always a delicious and age-worthy wine

You compared this Clisson to GC Chablis, a striking assertion for this 'peasant wine' (Jonathan Loesburg). Do you feel this vintage is a step up in degree, in the perspective of Clisson's evolution since its first bottling, or caused by incidental variation in vintage characteristics, which lifted it to this level as a one-off in 2019?

Other favorite recent vintages?

FWIW, Clisson is a major holding (relatively speaking) among the whites in my crawl space, albeit my most recent vintage is 2014 (and I still have a 2005 magnums).

Cheers and thanks.
 
Ian,
I was assessing it on its own and not with regard to previous vintages. I have little long term experience with this bottling as the Briords and front line wines are my usuals.
However, mark thinks it’s an anomaly and I’m pretty sure he has more experience than I.
Best, Jim
 
originally posted by Florida Jim:
Ian,
I was assessing it on its own and not with regard to previous vintages. I have little long term experience with this bottling as the Briords and front line wines are my usuals.
However, mark thinks it’s an anomaly and I’m pretty sure he has more experience than I.
Best, Jim
Not sure about that. I certainly have consumed 4-5 cases of Briords every vintage over many vintages. I don't think I ever bought more than a few bottles of Clisson per vintage. But I rarely prefer Clisson to it. Clisson is certainly a more "important" wine: broader, bigger, richer, but never in my recollection 13.5% ABV. So I do think it is somewhat anomalous, but there are plenty of people on this bored with vast Pépière experience who can give us all more perspective.
 
Maybe a grand Pepiere tasting dinner is in order. Or Pepiere + Luneau-Papin.

I'd be interested in hearing more about Pepiere's Chateau Thebaud wine, among other things.
 
originally posted by Florida Jim:
Ian,
I was assessing it on its own and not with regard to previous vintages. I have little long term experience with this bottling as the Briords and front line wines are my usuals.
However, mark thinks it’s an anomaly and I’m pretty sure he has more experience than I.
Best, Jim

You were certainly very keen on the 2005 - I think the first year it was bottled (as Granite de Clisson). But, of course, some time passed between these two vintages.
 
originally posted by Ian Fitzsimmons:
originally posted by Florida Jim:
Ian,
I was assessing it on its own and not with regard to previous vintages. I have little long term experience with this bottling as the Briords and front line wines are my usuals.
However, mark thinks it’s an anomaly and I’m pretty sure he has more experience than I.
Best, Jim

You were certainly very keen on the 2005 - I think the first year it was bottled (as Granite de Clisson). But, of course, some time passed between these two vintages.

I think it started out well and good, but then got bigger and more 'important' Pépière (with the bottle weight to match!) as time went on and the EU told them to knock off the 'granite' designation.
 
originally posted by MarkS:
originally posted by Ian Fitzsimmons:
originally posted by Florida Jim:
Ian,
I was assessing it on its own and not with regard to previous vintages. I have little long term experience with this bottling as the Briords and front line wines are my usuals.
However, mark thinks it’s an anomaly and I’m pretty sure he has more experience than I.
Best, Jim

You were certainly very keen on the 2005 - I think the first year it was bottled (as Granite de Clisson). But, of course, some time passed between these two vintages.

I think it started out well and good, but then got bigger and more 'important' Pépière (with the bottle weight to match!) as time went on and the EU told them to knock off the 'granite' designation.
Don’t discount the effects of global climate change. Temperatures in the Pays Nantais are warmer now than their historical average. Of course, this should affect Clos des Briords just as much as Clisson.

Mark Lipton
 
originally posted by mark e:
originally posted by Florida Jim:
Wine impressions 8-15-22
2019 Dom. Pepiere, Muscadet Clisson - decanted one hour and it made a difference; the intensity and precision here are at Grand Cru Chablis levels, the clarity and energy in the wine is exceptional and the finish is dynamic. I know this ages well but it will take a lot of discipline for my bottles to get there. Maybe the single most impressive white I’ve had this year.
I don't drink much GC Chablis so I can't really speak to the comparison, but at 13.5% ABV it does seem out of balance and too big in scale; it is my least favorite Clisson from Pépière. I'd be interested to hear how others find it. I will not be buying it again and will gladly go back to drinking recent vintages of Briords.

Both of you probably have more recent experience with Clisson than I do. But I finally opened the 2019 Clisson last night and thoroughly enjoyed it. Yes a bit more amplified than other Muscadet, but did not feel hot or heavy and I will gladly repurchase (while also enjoying Muscadet of a different scale, many ways to enjoy wine).
 
originally posted by Rahsaan:

Yes a bit more amplified than other Muscadet, but did not feel hot or heavy and I will gladly repurchase (while also enjoying Muscadet of a different scale, many ways to enjoy wine).

I had some 19 Briords tonight. Different scale is a great phrase. Clisson is tenor sax and Briords alto.
 
originally posted by Jim Hanlon:
I had some 19 Briords tonight. Different scale is a great phrase. Clisson is tenor sax and Briords alto.

just finishing 04 briords opened on tuesday.
definitely dorian modal scale
 
originally posted by Jim Hanlon:
originally posted by Rahsaan:

Yes a bit more amplified than other Muscadet, but did not feel hot or heavy and I will gladly repurchase (while also enjoying Muscadet of a different scale, many ways to enjoy wine).

I had some 19 Briords tonight. Different scale is a great phrase. Clisson is tenor sax and Briords alto.

Listening to Pharoah Sanders, no Briords or Clisson unfortunately.
RIP
 
originally posted by Florida Jim:

2019 Louis Michel, Chablis Clos- sure it’s early but this was surprisingly generous with excellent concentration and balance. Not giving all but giving plenty. Lovely wine.

Jim, know you love L. Michel Chablis and I just brought home 2019 Forets, Montmains, and Buttreaux. Have you tasted these yet? Best to Diane and hope the hurricane doesn't come your way.
 
originally posted by Everett Bandman:
originally posted by Florida Jim:

2019 Louis Michel, Chablis Clos- sure it’s early but this was surprisingly generous with excellent concentration and balance. Not giving all but giving plenty. Lovely wine.

Jim, know you love L. Michel Chablis and I just brought home 2019 Forets, Montmains, and Buttreaux. Have you tasted these yet? Best to Diane and hope the hurricane doesn't come your way.
The ‘19 Forets and Montmains are terrific but I have not had the Butteaux.
 
originally posted by Pavel Tchichikov:
originally posted by Jim Hanlon:
I had some 19 Briords tonight. Different scale is a great phrase. Clisson is tenor sax and Briords alto.

just finishing 04 briords opened on tuesday.
definitely dorian modal scale

It was a good bottle. They aren’t all so intact. It’s just that when they are, 🧨 .
 
originally posted by Florida Jim:
originally posted by Everett Bandman:
originally posted by Florida Jim:

2019 Louis Michel, Chablis Clos- sure it’s early but this was surprisingly generous with excellent concentration and balance. Not giving all but giving plenty. Lovely wine.

Jim, know you love L. Michel Chablis and I just brought home 2019 Forets, Montmains, and Buttreaux. Have you tasted these yet? Best to Diane and hope the hurricane doesn't come your way.
The ‘19 Forets and Montmains are terrific but I have not had the Butteaux.

I still have in mind to do a horizontal in NYC. I have MdT, Forets, Butteaux, and Butteaux VV all lined up and ready to go.
 
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