Nice Burgundies w/dinner (menu)

Peter Creasey

Peter Creasey

Peter Creasey
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. . . . . . Pete
 
Snapper in French is Vivaneau. It is a slightly different fish, which might excuse the English here, but not to my mind.

Spaghetti is almost always in the plural, which, in French, pace those who rage against panini and graffiti as singular, is spaghettis.
 
Thanks, Jonathan, for the constructive feedback (albeit for naught in this case as I was not the translator).

. . . . . Pete
 
I would love to see this menu in pidgin Italian rather than pidgin French.

Can you tell us about the first two wines, Pete, both producers I’ve enjoyed?
 
Joseph Colin St Aubin La Chatenier 1er Cru '17 -- Light yellow, uplifting bouquet, citrus notes, fresh and refreshing, medium body, pleasantly (seemingly) without oak, clean profile, in a word "delicious". [A-]

Dom Latour-Giraud Meursault Charmes 1er Cru '11 -- Medium yellow, pungent aromas, some noticeable oak, good life, buttery citrus(?), classic Meursault richness, enjoyable, good balance and length. [A-]

I have a better recollection of the St Aubin as it was preferable to me than the Meursault. No knock on the Meursault, but it was the St Aubin that I successfully got a second pour of.

. . . . . . Pete
 
To my atrophied palate, the Trapet Chambertin '08 blew the Faively Gevrey-Chambertin Les Cazetiers '09 away. The Faively was a fine wine that I would be pleased to have anytime with most anything. The Trapet Chambertin was superb on another level and would be a special treat for me (and anyone) whenever/wherever (and fortunately I managed to get a repour of this at the end of the evening).

It didn't occur to me to consider comparing them in terms of their vintages ('09 vs '08), so can't really comment on this.

. . . . . Pete
 
originally posted by Peter Creasey:

Joseph Colin St Aubin La Chatenier 1er Cru '17 -- Light yellow, uplifting bouquet, citrus notes, fresh and refreshing, medium body, pleasantly (seemingly) without oak, clean profile, in a word "delicious". [A-]

Dom Latour-Giraud Meursault Charmes 1er Cru '11 -- Medium yellow, pungent aromas, some noticeable oak, good life, buttery citrus(?), classic Meursault richness, enjoyable, good balance and length. [A-]

I have a better recollection of the St Aubin as it was preferable to me than the Meursault. No knock on the Meursault, but it was the St Aubin that I successfully got a second pour of.

. . . . . . Pete
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Thanks! I have enjoyed Joseph’s wines since he went off on his own from papa Marc a few vintages ago (2017 his first?), finding them to have a finer purer touch for my palate than his brother’s wines (PYCM). But now the prices have caught up to the quality unfortunately. As with all things Burgundy.

Latour Giroud I have liked as well. The house is said to have improved in the last 15 or so years, but I have no experience and like the old style from before that just fine.
 
originally posted by Jayson Cohen:
originally posted by Peter Creasey:

Joseph Colin St Aubin La Chatenier 1er Cru '17 -- Light yellow, uplifting bouquet, citrus notes, fresh and refreshing, medium body, pleasantly (seemingly) without oak, clean profile, in a word "delicious". [A-]

Dom Latour-Giraud Meursault Charmes 1er Cru '11 -- Medium yellow, pungent aromas, some noticeable oak, good life, buttery citrus(?), classic Meursault richness, enjoyable, good balance and length. [A-]

I have a better recollection of the St Aubin as it was preferable to me than the Meursault. No knock on the Meursault, but it was the St Aubin that I successfully got a second pour of.

. . . . . . Pete
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But now the prices have caught up to the quality unfortunately. As with all things Burgundy.
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Irancy.
My initial forays are all under $30 and the quality has been mostly good, some excellent.
Of course, more tasting is needed but, for the moment, there’s still some Burgundy I can afford.
 
Irancy -- a good find, Jim.

This is a red wine made from Pinot Noir grapes. An unusual feature is that it may, if desired, include in its composition up to 10% of César, a traditional grape of this region. Rich in tannins, lively in colour, the César is a noble grape which lends the wine an interesting personality.

On slopes above the Yonne river valley 15 km from Chablis, a handful of winemakers are growing Pinot Noir at the northernmost limit of its possibility. While Chablis, of course, is famous and white, Irancy has always been red and has always lived in the shadow of the more famous red Burgundies to the south. But since Irancy officially earned its ‘village’ appellation in 1999, something remarkable has happened. Irancy has found its ‘terroir, and it’s an exciting expression of Pinot Noir, not some pale imitation of a big-name Cotes de Nuits.
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Alas, I've never seen it in our market area.

[EDITED TO ADD] Another in or near this price range would be the Francois Lumpp Givry 1er Cru.

. . . . . . Pete
 
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