Aging Hipster Bottles

originally posted by Claude Kolm:
A 2015 Jules Desjourneys Chénas "Le Jugement Dernier" today in a restaurant was very good (but short of being great). 90e in the restaurant, 49e later in the day in a store.
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surprised it's mentioned in this thread.
Jayson, LL, and I shared the 2012 this year and it struck me as fairly classic, unless it overcame the hipster-ish exuberance of its youth... ???
 
originally posted by Pavel Tchichikov:
originally posted by Claude Kolm:
A 2015 Jules Desjourneys Chénas "Le Jugement Dernier" today in a restaurant was very good (but short of being great). 90e in the restaurant, 49e later in the day in a store.
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surprised it's mentioned in this thread.
Jayson, LL, and I shared the 2012 this year and it struck me as fairly classic, unless it overcame the hipster-ish exuberance of its youth... ???
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It sells in hipster wine bars, shops, and restos in Paris (including the one where I had it, which seemed to be about half full of hipster somms from NYC), so I assumed it was hipsterish. Maybe hipster loses something in translation.
 
originally posted by mlawton:


Speaking of hipster Gamay, I still have a bottle of Peyra SG Rouge. Anyone feel lucky?
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Did open my last bottle of Peyra '04 VV, along with an '06 Jouvenceau, back in February. The wine was fine but lacking a bit overall. It was really a question of would it bring back that new and exciting experience it did when drinking it and it brethren 20 years ago? Not so much. These vin natural, vin de soif, wines, of the the early aughts, where did we expect them to go with time? That mine have not spoiled, and most of similar vintage and pedigree have seen questionable storage, including submersion from Sandy, would go against the belief that "natural" wines aren't stable and bound to spoil before you can get them home from the store. They may age, but may not evolve. Can they bring back memoires? Yes they can.
 
At the risk of transgressing prevailing definitions of hipster, zero-zero, and kool kid orthodoxy——some (almost) zero sulfur wines from these producers, popular among winos born after 1980, have exceeded my expectations for preservation and development. One miracle bottle led to a pattern, and kept me interested in aging them: Cascina Ulivi, La Biancara, Les Vins Contes.

What about these?——expected to cellar well, no?: Cornelissen, Radikon, Joly, etc. Am I wandering from the hipster idiom? I see them guzzled.

Among the disappointments that have chilled my curiosity came from Souhat, Tschida, and Muster. Bated hope survives for Strekov 1075 whites, la Cave des Nomades, Goyo Garcia Viadero, and Oriol Artigas.

I know practically nothing about USA wines. One exception: a particular mutation of hipster ethos, and I maintain a vigil for it, is Brea (Brockway, Elenteny) Cabernet Sauvignon from the Massa vineyard in Carmel Valley. I'm told there is not enough to allow me an allocation in Michigan. In it I find a cyclical return to classic virtue, enabled——ironically?——by one of the more commercially successful hipster brands (Broc, specifically.) And until I learn more, I'll assume this is the same fruit/terroir that produced two mind blowing vintages of Durney Cabernet in 1978 and 1979, several bottles of which drank beautifully at least through 2010.

Clue me in, Disorder.
 
originally posted by Jeff Grossman:
Joly and Radikon, yes.
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In Radikon's case, assuming one or one's clients are not sensitive to massive doses of VA. Cornelissen was very VA-prone too, but cleaned up his act in the last few years with sulfur.
 
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