In the Pfalz (Rebholz, Wehrheim, Koehler-Ruprecht)

Rahsaan

Rahsaan
Schedules worked out well to gather friends and visit some wineries in the Pfalz.

One of my long-time favorites is Rebholz, so happy to visit and learn more. Lots of interesting stuff, including the fact that they have isolated and frozen their own cellar yeast, which they can use in (supposedly) surgical ways to promote fermentations as they like. (In comparison to the later visit to Koehler-Ruprecht, where no yeast additions occur)

Unfortunately they were sold out of 2021 GGs, and the 2022 GGs were getting bottled in the next days. So we had to content ourselves with drinking the Ortsweine and the Terroirweine. As a result, I learned that many of those wines are declassified from Kastanienbusch and Sonnenschein parcels. I never realized that because I had never explored those wines. Maybe I was a lackluster amateur, or a cherry picker.

Mostly 2022s, which were all fresh clean and Rebholz in style. The 2022 Riesling Ökonomierat and 2022 Weissburgunder Trocken both perfectly correct wines that tasted like their respective grapes and would be good for large outdoor parties.

From declassified Kastanienbusch grapes we had 2022 and 2020 Riesling vom Rotliegenden. Both nice wines, with a bit more richness and I might move these indoors to non-wine-focused dinner parties.

Same theme for the declassified Im Sonnenschein wines, the 2022 Weissburgunder Muschelkalk and the 2022 and 2018 Riesling vom Muschelkalk. All what you would expect given vintage, grape and Rebholz. These are limestone, and they show more delicate and less robust (adjusting for 2018) compared to the red slate/rotliegenden wines. All solid wines that I would serve for non-wine-focused dinner parties.

It was interesting for me to taste through these wines, because I always enjoyed Rebholz GGs for the combination of power and elegant restraint. These ‘lower level’ wines had similar levels of elegant restraint. But without the same depth and guts, they were not as exciting, especially as they maybe lacked a bit of zippy life. To use a technical term. But really we’re splitting hairs here, for the indulgence of our highly-specific preferences. All good wines.

Also tasted 2019 Gewürztraminer von Lößlehm which was one of the more restrained elegant and linear Gewürztraminers I can remember. Lovely and would be happy to drink more, although I doubt I’ll ever find a reason/occasion.

Lastly the 2021 Chardonnay R was marked by its barrique but still of course in the clean and fresh direction. Will be interesting to see if Germany further develops these Chardonnays. I find it hard to pro-actively choose them, but sent some to the in-laws

Next stop was just down the road at Dr. Wehrheim. A new producer to me. I had not even tasted the wines yet, although I bought some from Lyle F. I was very glad for the visit, and very impressed with the wines. Organic, biodynamic, and many similar approaches as Rebholz. But with a bit more ripeness and zest to the wines, a different character in the mouth.

2022 Weissburgunder Aus Dem Muschelkalk and 2022 Weissburgunder Rosenberg were both very nice zesty lively wines that we also enjoyed drinking outdoors later for dinner. The Aus Dem Muschelkalk is fresher and the Rosenberg gets more chewy layered texture from 30% barrique. But both still qualify as fresh and fun.

The 2021 Rieslings from Aus dem Rotliegenden and Aus dem Bundsandstein are yet another opportunity to see the importance of soil. Both zesty fresh and fun, a bit more body in the Bundsandstein, and of course the great precision of 2021. More enjoyable than the Rebholz wines of the same level, although admittedly a vintage difference

Extremely educational to taste 2021 Kastanienbusch Riesling and 2021 Kastanienbusch Köppel Riesling. The first is from the historic portion of Kastanienbusch (mostly rotliegenden/red slate) whereas the Köppel is from the 1971 extension of the vineyard, which really should be a separate vineyard (and is mostly bundsandstein/sandstone). The Kastanienbusch was what I know and love of the vineyard, poised, stately, but with freshness and verve, a great success in 2021. The Kastanienbusch Köppel was looser and less poised, and seemed doomed to lose in a head-to-head. But, Wehrheim prices both the same at the winery (46 euros compared to 69 euros for the Rebholz Kastanienbusch) and I’m sure the Köppel would have many virtues, were one to explore it in more depth.

A detour into the 2021 Rosenberg Chardonnay, which continues the peculiar German expression. Clean neutral flavors with a round shape and texture. I find it hard to get excited, but there is probably a use for these wines.

Lastly, some Spätburgunder to send us on our way. The 2017 Kastanienbusch Köppel and the 2020 Im Sonnenschein. The 2017 Köppel was lacy elegant and perfectly ready to drink, for my palate. The 2020 Im Sonnenschein was riper, fuller, more power. I bought both for further exploration.

Overall, a great find and very happy that Fass Selections will work with them. Will see how deep the offerings go, probably not all of these bottlings will come to the US. But will take what I can get. It also doesn’t hurt that young Franz is a chatty and charming winemaker, with lots of energy for the future. Some more synergy with LF here

Our final stop was at Koehler-Ruprecht, which is another of my long-time favorites. Very instructive to see their rustic buildings and cellars. Quite the contrast to the refined cool elegance of the Rebholz property. Both great operations in their own right, but these buildings/grounds appearances are obviously not randomly distributed, so it’s nice to see where the wines come from. And of course it’s a cliché, but drinking the KR wines out of perfect Zaltos on a warm day in their delightful courtyard, could not have been a more enjoyable experience with their wines!

It also didn’t hurt to drink a lot of 2021s. The 2021 Weissburgunder trocken was so good, so clean fresh and lively, but also structured and present in the mouth. Would take this for an outdoor party and have more fun. 2021 Chardonnay Kabinett trocken tasted eerily similar to the Weissburgunder. Neutral and no/little malo, not much chardonnay distinctiveness. But there are more fun grapes here

Such as Riesling. 2021 Kallstadt Riesling Kabinett Trocken is correct and will serve your outdoor party well. But when you move to the table, maybe choose 2021 Kallstadt Saumagen Riesling Kabinett Trocken or 2021 Kallstadt Saumagen Riesling Spätlese Trocken both clean, poised and 2021, but with more of the classic K-R herbal and straw aromas adding complexity, in the proper way for their respective pradikats. 2020 Kallstadt Saumagen Riesling Spätlese Trocken is more evolved, broader, and a nice interpretation of vintage variation. But the 2021 is so classic.

2020 Kallstadt Saumagen Riesling Auslese Trocken is maybe less typical of Riesling, but it’s where I think K-R gets even more distinctive and special (and of course the R bottlings). I love the extra body and the extra layers, but still with freshness and precision. And those distinctive K-R flavors are even more apparent in the Auslese. I really like a lot of GG-type wines across Germany, and this has a special place in that rotation, for my palate.

I don’t often drink their off-dry wines, although the 2021 Steinacker Kabinett would be a fine choice if one were in the neighborhood and wanted a wine in that style.

Lastly, Spätburgunder. The 2020 Spätburgunder Kabinett trocken is the wine we get in the US (even though often labelled Pinot Noir on US bottles, it is Wädenswil (German) clone 777). Such lovely bright cherry juice. On the fresh juicy side of the grape, but with KR linear structure, not at all the round bubble that other producers make. I’m a long-time fan of the wine, and it has a place for easy Spätburgunder drinking.

But I was intrigued to see the 2019 Pinot Noir Spätlese Trocken, which is a French clone (777) and not exported to the US. Here were have a darker richer and more layered interpretation, but still silky smooth and ready to drink. An interesting style, not really Burgundian, but more substance than fresh juicy style. Not bad for price (25 euros). A bit more serious than the Spätburgunder Kabinett trocken, but both nice and drinkable. It just depends what interpretation you want.

Overall, very excited to see the K-R operation. I came in a big fan, and left an even bigger fan.
 
That all sounds fabulous. Thanks for the report. Was this a holiday jaunt or a side trip while in western Germany for other reasons? I once had a day in Germany to myself during a work trip to Mannheim / Ludwigshafen and decided Haardt and Niederhaus together were a perfect short day trip.
 
Yes, always useful to find reasons to get out of Mannheim!

We're in Berlin for the summer and some wine-loving friends of mine were going to be in Mannheim for a few days. So, we decided to organize this jaunt. It certainly fit into my schedule!

The proximity of these things certainly helps. I have a work trip to Frankfurt in November, and already thinking about ways to get out and see wineries.
 
Great write up. Thank you. If you ever go back to the Pfalz make sure you check out Lukas Hammelmann a very exciting young producer like Carsten.
 
In my experience the Rebholz Terroir wines are often super rewarding buys. They actually age rather well and regularly turn into something pretty interesting. Not unlike their GG counterparts they often seem not too impressive or complex when young but blossom after 5 to 10 years. As they should, given their current pricing.
 
Glad you got down there -- the wines of the Pfalz are so great and so little understood in the US. Alas, you missed the middle part with great wines from the likes of Acham-Magin, Mosbacher, Bassermann-Jordan and Christmann, but there are so many others, too, from the north to the south.

Based on the GG's I taste every year, Wehrheim has been substantially improving in recent years.

Finally, Bernd Philippi, the man who put K-R on the map, died just last month at age 72, apparently in very poor health the last few years of his life. My visits with him in the late 1990s and early 2000s were always full of great conversation about wine.
 
I am quite sad to hear that Mr. Philippi has died and even more so that it wasn't a smooth road. I was fortunate to visit him in November 1996 and he saw me (alone) from 5-6:30pm and he never rushed. a kind and thoughtful gentleman. he kept pouring wine after wine, enjoying teaching me about whatever came to mind, and capped off the the journey with the 1990 Saumagen Auslese RR! needless to say, even with wonderful wine after wonderful wine, it blew me away. I can still feel that moment but also recalling the visit as one of the best ever. Seemingly minutes after I returned home, I called up Bill Mayer and asked him to get as many possible bottles of that one!!! Bill squirreled away 3 bottles for me, and alack alas, one broke in transit. Maybe the only error Bill made, even if unforced... A treasure Mr. Philippi truly was.
 
originally posted by georg lauer:
In my experience the Rebholz Terroir wines are often super rewarding buys. They actually age rather well and regularly turn into something pretty interesting. Not unlike their GG counterparts they often seem not too impressive or complex when young but blossom after 5 to 10 years. As they should, given their current pricing.

Now you tell me! They had 2016 Riesling von Buntsandstein (declassified Ganz Horn for those without vineyard soil maps) for sale at 28 euros. Not sure if your price comment refers to US or German, but I see that range in the US for $50-60, which strikes me as high. Whereas the German price seems reasonable. But I wasn't optimistic about it being 'interesting' so I bought some other stuff.

(I should also note that in my unscientific shopping over the years, the US/German price differential seems particularly large for Rebholz, compared to other producers)

Am still a Rebholz fan, they have an admirable style, and it's important to have different styles in the wine world. I did come away from the visit with a better understanding of what they are doing and why the wines taste that way, which was the whole point.
 
originally posted by Claude Kolm:
Based on the GG's I taste every year, Wehrheim has been substantially improving in recent years.

Sounds good. I bought 2017 and 2021 Kastanienbusch from Lyle, but they haven't arrived in the US yet. Therefore, I went to the visit without having tasted any of their wines, and was impressed. Upwards trajectory is always good. I'm sure many reasons, but I think Franz has been involved for 10 years perhaps brought some new ideas/energy. He's still quite young, so one would hope that trajectory continues.
 
originally posted by Mark Anisman:
...he kept pouring wine after wine, enjoying teaching me about whatever came to mind, and capped off the the journey with the 1990 Saumagen Auslese RR! needless to say, even with wonderful wine after wonderful wine, it blew me away. I can still feel that moment but also recalling the visit as one of the best ever.

originally posted by Claude Kolm:
Finally, Bernd Philippi, the man who put K-R on the map, died just last month at age 72, apparently in very poor health the last few years of his life. My visits with him in the late 1990s and early 2000s were always full of great conversation about wine.

Yes, he sounds like a character. Dominik Sona also seems like a character, and he had emailed with me. But on the day, the only people available were two of the sales/winery team. Also very nice, and very hospitable.

I still have one bottle of the 2009 Auslese Trocken R, which I guess was the last vintage for Philippi. I assume he continued to advise as the vintage worked through to bottling. As always with last bottles, a torturous decision about when to open!
 
originally posted by Rahsaan:

Am still a Rebholz fan, they have an admirable style, and it's important to have different styles in the wine world. I did come away from the visit with a better understanding of what they are doing and why the wines taste that way, which was the whole point.
A friend once described Rebholz as the Protestant of the Pfalz, which I think perfectly sums up his style.
 
originally posted by Claude Kolm:
originally posted by Rahsaan:

Am still a Rebholz fan, they have an admirable style, and it's important to have different styles in the wine world. I did come away from the visit with a better understanding of what they are doing and why the wines taste that way, which was the whole point.
A friend once described Rebholz as the Protestant of the Pfalz, which I think perfectly sums up his style.

We have made similar comments in our group of friends. One of them said after his first visit "now I understand the wines as a clear reflection of the maker". Though Kastanienbusch is often the outlier there for me. And even some of the other wines become surprisingly full (though not broad) with age.
The protestant prototype is the Riesling "Ökonomierat" (an hommage to the grandfather of Hansjörg) that Rahsaan mentioned above. Completely dry (
 
originally posted by Rahsaan:

It also didn’t hurt to drink a lot of 2021s. The 2021 Weissburgunder trocken was so good, so clean fresh and lively, but also structured and present in the mouth.
Good reminder. Thanks. This wine is really lovely. I don't buy them as often as I should as more than decent Pfalz Weissburgunder is about ½ the price of the Koehler-Ruprecht, but then again few are even close to the quality of this 2021.
 
originally posted by mark e:
This wine is really lovely. I don't buy them as often as I should as more than decent Pfalz Weissburgunder is about ½ the price of the Koehler-Ruprecht, but then again few are even close to the quality of this 2021.

Glad to hear you enjoy it as well. The KR basic Weissburgunder is so classy, but also fun and enjoyable.

Not sure about you, but Weissburgunder is a tough category for me. It plays a nice role in Germany, for the occasions when my companions don't want to drink Riesling. But, when it's my own choice, as much as I enjoy these wines, there are often so many others I'd rather purchase, especially in the US with the broader array of options.

But who knows, KR Weiss is sold in Nyc at a fair price. Maybe I'll start buying it more often.
 
originally posted by Rahsaan:
originally posted by mark e:
This wine is really lovely. I don't buy them as often as I should as more than decent Pfalz Weissburgunder is about ½ the price of the Koehler-Ruprecht, but then again few are even close to the quality of this 2021.

Glad to hear you enjoy it as well. The KR basic Weissburgunder is so classy, but also fun and enjoyable.

Not sure about you, but Weissburgunder is a tough category for me. It plays a nice role in Germany, for the occasions when my companions don't want to drink Riesling. But, when it's my own choice, as much as I enjoy these wines, there are often so many others I'd rather purchase, especially in the US with the broader array of options.

But who knows, KR Weiss is sold in Nyc at a fair price. Maybe I'll start buying it more often.

I am currently shifting my purchases much more in the Weissburgunder direction. Somehow I have not a lot of Riesling itch lately. I mostly prefer WB in the context of a meal, which is when we drink most of our wine. Rebholz, Holger Koch, and Ziereisen being my favorites.I also like Wasenhaus but the allocations are ridiculous.
 
originally posted by georg lauer:
originally posted by Rahsaan:
originally posted by mark e:
This wine is really lovely. I don't buy them as often as I should as more than decent Pfalz Weissburgunder is about ½ the price of the Koehler-Ruprecht, but then again few are even close to the quality of this 2021.

Glad to hear you enjoy it as well. The KR basic Weissburgunder is so classy, but also fun and enjoyable.

Not sure about you, but Weissburgunder is a tough category for me. It plays a nice role in Germany, for the occasions when my companions don't want to drink Riesling. But, when it's my own choice, as much as I enjoy these wines, there are often so many others I'd rather purchase, especially in the US with the broader array of options.

But who knows, KR Weiss is sold in Nyc at a fair price. Maybe I'll start buying it more often.

I am currently shifting my purchases much more in the Weissburgunder direction. Somehow I have not a lot of Riesling itch lately. I mostly prefer WB in the context of a meal, which is when we drink most of our wine. Rebholz, Holger Koch, and Ziereisen being my favorites.I also like Wasenhaus but the allocations are ridiculous.

I agree with that. I generally buy feinherb riesling which does not work with many dishes (while weissburgunder will) and riesling does not really work with dishes where garlic is a key ingredient (think pesto this time of year). Also, I have a bit of veltliner fatigue (I have drunk oceans of it) and lighter veltliners are much harder to find where I am, whereas there is far more German wine available. FYI - Wasenhaus WB is around $70 per bottle here and that is a bit too much (KR is around $30, but most including Dönnhoff WB are around $15).
 
originally posted by georg lauer:
originally posted by Rahsaan:
originally posted by mark e:
This wine is really lovely. I don't buy them as often as I should as more than decent Pfalz Weissburgunder is about ½ the price of the Koehler-Ruprecht, but then again few are even close to the quality of this 2021.

Glad to hear you enjoy it as well. The KR basic Weissburgunder is so classy, but also fun and enjoyable.

Not sure about you, but Weissburgunder is a tough category for me. It plays a nice role in Germany, for the occasions when my companions don't want to drink Riesling. But, when it's my own choice, as much as I enjoy these wines, there are often so many others I'd rather purchase, especially in the US with the broader array of options.

But who knows, KR Weiss is sold in Nyc at a fair price. Maybe I'll start buying it more often.

I am currently shifting my purchases much more in the Weissburgunder direction. Somehow I have not a lot of Riesling itch lately. I mostly prefer WB in the context of a meal, which is when we drink most of our wine. Rebholz, Holger Koch, and Ziereisen being my favorites.I also like Wasenhaus but the allocations are ridiculous.

Thanks for this conversation. I just recently had Wasenhaus' Weissburgunder and loved it; it would be great to have in the rotation. But I don't have the time and energy for hunting hard to find wines these days, and while it is worth the steep sticker price it isn't cheap, so I'm glad to have recommendations to build out a list for possible German Weissburgunders.
 
Speaking of Weissburgunder, tonight's 2019 Salwey Steingrubenweg was way too marked by oak for my tastes, although some might have found it a pretty wine nonetheless.
 
originally posted by John M:
originally posted by georg lauer:
originally posted by Rahsaan:
originally posted by mark e:
This wine is really lovely. I don't buy them as often as I should as more than decent Pfalz Weissburgunder is about ½ the price of the Koehler-Ruprecht, but then again few are even close to the quality of this 2021.

Glad to hear you enjoy it as well. The KR basic Weissburgunder is so classy, but also fun and enjoyable.

Not sure about you, but Weissburgunder is a tough category for me. It plays a nice role in Germany, for the occasions when my companions don't want to drink Riesling. But, when it's my own choice, as much as I enjoy these wines, there are often so many others I'd rather purchase, especially in the US with the broader array of options.

But who knows, KR Weiss is sold in Nyc at a fair price. Maybe I'll start buying it more often.

I am currently shifting my purchases much more in the Weissburgunder direction. Somehow I have not a lot of Riesling itch lately. I mostly prefer WB in the context of a meal, which is when we drink most of our wine. Rebholz, Holger Koch, and Ziereisen being my favorites.I also like Wasenhaus but the allocations are ridiculous.

Thanks for this conversation. I just recently had Wasenhaus' Weissburgunder and loved it; it would be great to have in the rotation. But I don't have the time and energy for hunting hard to find wines these days, and while it is worth the steep sticker price it isn't cheap, so I'm glad to have recommendations to build out a list for possible German Weissburgunders.

Not sure any Weissburgunders are widely available in the US. Holger Koch and Rebholz seem available in some markets and are wines I always buy (though I buy mostly in Germany where the prices are half). The Schulthauser from San Michele Appiano also used to be pretty good and is more widely available and more reasonably priced. But did not have it in a few vintages,
 
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