Domaine Anita Beaujolais

Claude,

I am not sure that you are fully aware of what is going on in Beaujolais (or Jura BTW) with the recent real estate transactions.
Burgundy is buying out Beaujolais at a fairly quick pace. Around 40% of the northern crus (except Régnié...) are now in Burgundian hands(about the same thing in Jura now).
Jadot was the first in the mid 90s, only 25 years ago.

You might see this as an improvement.
I sincerely don't. And I am not totally sure that buying traditional bojo crus will be that easy for every one (and it will probably no be my case) in a near future.

The same way, buying unspoofed Côte Rotie is now. Benetières is gone and one of the old timer will be soon.

I don't intend to convince anyone here, not to drink those kinds of bojos.
I first posted to express a different view on Anita 's wines, compared to BJ's and believing it is sound to confront opinions, as far as it is still possible.
I was then asked about my reasons for this view. I answered.
I totally respect his opinion and yours.
But it won't change mine and my love for Beaujolais and its original wine and food culture.
 
To be clear, I'm not saying I love the Anita wines...just that I'm trying to figure them out. I wanted some discussion. We got that.
 
originally posted by Brézème:
Claude,

I am not sure that you are fully aware of what is going on in Beaujolais (or Jura BTW) with the recent real estate transactions.
Burgundy is buying out Beaujolais at a fairly quick pace. Around 40% of the northern crus (except Régnié...) are now in Burgundian hands(about the same thing in Jura now).
Jadot was the first in the mid 90s, only 25 years ago.

You might see this as an improvement.
I sincerely don't. And I am not totally sure that buying traditional bojo crus will be that easy for every one (and it will probably no be my case) in a near future.

The same way, buying unspoofed Côte Rotie is now. Benetières is gone and one of the old timer will be soon.

I don't intend to convince anyone here, not to drink those kinds of bojos.
I first posted to express a different view on Anita 's wines, compared to BJ's and believing it is sound to confront opinions, as far as it is still possible.
I was then asked about my reasons for this view. I answered.
I totally respect his opinion and yours.
But it won't change mine and my love for Beaujolais and its original wine and food culture.
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Éric -- You are correct, I am not au courrant on recent changes in Northern Beaujolais or Jura, and would appreciate hearing details about new purchases from you.

To my knowledge, in the Beaujolais it had just been Jadot (Ch“teau St-Jacques), Bouchard P&F (which presumably has been or will be sold), Liger-Belair, Lafarge-Vial, and Boillot.

In Jura, I only know of d'Angerville and Boisset.

I've never had the Anita and did not even know of it before this thread. Vial-Lafarge was disappointing the first few years, but I've liked the recent ones. Ch“teau de Jacques doesn't do it for me (but I like the Ferret wines in Pouilly-Fuissé). The Boillot wines are excellent, IMO. I've never had a Liger-Belair. I suppose one might also count the Labruyère wines, but I essentially don't know those, either.

I'm wondering, though, if it's really a change related to outsiders coming in or to global warming (I'm not a fan of most Beaujolais from 2018-19-20). Certainly in Côte d'Or, where I do keep visiting, the changes in winemaking are very much climate-related (even though there are more and more wealthy outsiders buying up the properties).

Also, I can say that here in Paris and in SF, I see very few non-traditional producers. Where are they selling their wines?
 
originally posted by BJ:
To be clear, I'm not saying I love the Anita wines...just that I'm trying to figure them out. I wanted some discussion. We got that.
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Probably worth amplifying that in good WT form, we had a whole discussion about a wine that only two of the respondents had actually tried. Bravo!!!
 
I also think the larger thing Eric is raising is really the thing. Prices keep rising on vineyards, forcing out traditional farming/local oriented winemakers to others with investment backed expectations. Thinking about that happening in Beaujolais is just depressing.
 
originally posted by BJ:
I also think the larger thing Eric is raising is really the thing. Prices keep rising on vineyards, forcing out traditional farming/local oriented winemakers to others with investment backed expectations. Thinking about that happening in Beaujolais is just depressing.
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As current retail prices can attest...
 
I am not journalist, but some random transactions I heard of(either buyer or seller) :
- Chateau de la Chaize (150 ha, Brouilly , Cotes de Brouilly, Fleurie, Morgon,...), Very much in Anita's style, same consultants
- Domaine Rolet (60ha, Arbois),
- Chandon de Briailles (Domaine des Moriers 20ish ha, Fleurie, Morgon, Moulin à vent, Chiroubles)
 
originally posted by Oswaldo Costa:
originally posted by BJ:
Let's all agree - JP is the best.
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Fuggedaboutit. Maybe the best non-carbonic, which is atypical.
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I thought we went through all this before...I think he's traditional Beaujolais on the crus for sure. To me the Terres Dorees Beaujolais from down south tastes Burgundian (not my fave).
 
originally posted by Brézème:
I am not journalist, but some random transactions I heard of(either buyer or seller) :
- Chateau de la Chaize (150 ha, Brouilly , Cotes de Brouilly, Fleurie, Morgon,...), Very much in Anita's style, same consultants
- Domaine Rolet (60ha, Arbois),
- Chandon de Briailles (Domaine des Moriers 20ish ha, Fleurie, Morgon, Moulin à vent, Chiroubles)
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That's interesting about Chaize Eric...that one tasted like a poorer quality Anita yes. I didn't care for them.
 
originally posted by Brézème:
I am not journalist
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unfortunate given the doctrine of the much revered and feared politburo whose practice has always been to appoint professionals, at least in art and music, to critique their colleagues in the daily rag

you have to give them credit despite the obvious difficulties of navigating the waters of journalistic objectivity muddied with commercial and political motivations - at least you are reading someone who knows what the fuck they are talking about (while getting to keep your allocation of the favourite touraine)
 
briailles has been making moriers MaV since the 2005 vintage and it has impressively mirrored their cote de beaune wines over the years, which means it has as little to do with burgundy as it does with traditional bojo :-)
 
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