Advice on US biodynamic wines

originally posted by Chris Coad:
originally posted by Scott Kraft:
originally posted by Chris Coad:
originally posted by Scott Kraft:
Chris and Thor: Thanks again. This is very promising. Have you any specific wines from your lists that we should try?
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The Araujo Cabernet Sauvignon Eisele Vineyard is very nice, if you're not oak-averse.
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Nice. Is it very very expensive? I like to get the rich guys to pony up.
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Oh god, yes. So very very expensive. Just extraordinarily pricey, more so than you'd ever imagine. Quite seriously beyond most anyone's means. Exorbitant doesn't even begin to describe it, just fantastically overpriced.
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Oh goody! They just love shelling it out and pretending they don't care as they mention that this is a four-figure wine! Everyone wins!
 
Bonny Doon's 2006 Cigare Blanc, 2007 Vin Gris de Cigare, 2004 Le Cigare Volant
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None of these are biodynamic (or even organic). Only the wines from the Ca' del Solo Vineyard are.
 
originally posted by Scott Kraft:
originally posted by Chris Coad:
originally posted by Scott Kraft:
originally posted by Chris Coad:
originally posted by Scott Kraft:
Chris and Thor: Thanks again. This is very promising. Have you any specific wines from your lists that we should try?
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The Araujo Cabernet Sauvignon Eisele Vineyard is very nice, if you're not oak-averse.
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Nice. Is it very very expensive? I like to get the rich guys to pony up.
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Oh god, yes. So very very expensive. Just extraordinarily pricey, more so than you'd ever imagine. Quite seriously beyond most anyone's means. Exorbitant doesn't even begin to describe it, just fantastically overpriced.
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Oh goody! They just love shelling it out and pretending they don't care as they mention that this is a four-figure wine! Everyone wins!
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No, seriously, that's why I suggested it. There's no downside.
 
originally posted by Scott Kraft:
her classmates are sissy girls who wouldn't know the difference between a Vouvray and a Savennieres!
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No time like the present to start Learning.

Pupil, heal thyself.
 
Brick House. I made some bd Syrah this last fall. Might be good, but being as unfamiliar with this fruit as I am, it's a little hard to read.
 
originally posted by Rahsaan:
originally posted by Scott Kraft:
her classmates are sissy girls who wouldn't know the difference between a Vouvray and a Savennieres!
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No time like the present to start Learning.

Pupil, heal thyself.
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I agree - but I thought I'd start with US because they are subject to extreme propaganda, peer pressure, and hair-pulling to become pro-California. Even adding Oregon could be cause for uproar. But I wouldn't mind a ringer!
 
originally posted by Steve Edmunds:
Brick House. I made some bd Syrah this last fall. Might be good, but being as unfamiliar with this fruit as I am, it's a little hard to read.
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Thanks, Steve. Brick House looks like a natural.

Which of your Syrah's is bd?
 
Also, Benziger Family makes some bio wines. Nothing spectacular, but solid and reliable. Though not fantastically overpriced, sadly.
 
originally posted by Chris Coad:
Also, Benziger Family makes some bio wines. Nothing spectacular, but solid and reliable. Though not fantastically overpriced, sadly.
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But a highly recognized brand! I know a few dads who will like that angle.
 
Seconding Brick House. Interesting wines. While the pinots are very good, keep an eye out for their Gamay noir. They only make a little bit, but it's a fun little wine.

Also, Bergstrom's estate wines are all biodynamic, though the fruit they purchase may be conventionally farmed, I'm not sure. Bergstrom goes for a fuller style than I like, but the wines retain a great balance and should age nicely.

Also look for Resonance wines. Also a touch more extraction than I'd prefer, but still nicely balanced wines. Might be hard to find, though.
 
originally posted by Scott Kraft:
I'm curious how a biodynamic wine can be made from non-biodynamic grapes.
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I think he meant the grapes were not organic. But they can still be biodynamically farmed, no?
 
Oh. I would have thought that biodynamic farming was considered pretty unconventional. And that Demeter requires organic certification as part of biodynamic certification. Not that all biodynamic wines apply for certification.
 
I like Coturri, seems many here do not. Benzinger is about as boring as they come, and only about a fourth of their wines are biodynamic. Unti is good, as is Qupe, but I believe they only do one Bio wine.

Oh and Robert Sinskey.
 
Boring in a kind of standardly mild mid-range i'm paying 10 dollars too much for this wine kind of boring. Well rounded and crafted, but nothing to write home about. If the point is to show the range of wines from biodynamic vineyards, then yes it's a good choice. Biodynamics has gotten too much credit for doing great things, when in fact it can produce some fantastically forgettable stuff.

I can't recall which Qupe vineyard(s) is/are Bio, but I know(think) it isn't 100%

Edit: Qupe's Purisima vineyard was certified in '06.
 
originally posted by Chris Coad:
Araujo makes a decent biodynamic cabernet sauvignon, if you're not oak-averse.
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Are you inferring that an American cabernet sauvignon uses a significant amount of new oak??

WHAAA??
 
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