Chenin-Gamay-Silvaner

Rahsaan

Rahsaan
2022 Pinon Buvez du Bon Pinon Vouvray is fresh, juicy, chalky, lively and linear. Fun and easy but also enough elegance to add lift to the aperitif mode on a hot day. Nice!

On the other hand, with 2021 Domaine de Bellivière Coteaux du Loir L’Effraie we have the ‘rustic’ pungent side of chenin, with the darker-hued flavors (sometimes pear, sometimes jellied kumquat, sometimes dried apricot, take your pick). Have been opening a few bottles and each time I preferred them on day 2, which is rare for me. The wine had more grip, more structure to the layers, better integration. That made me more positive than the day 1 experiences, but still not sure I need to buy a bunch.

2017 Louis Claude Desvignes Morgon Côte du Py is yet another in a baffling series of Desvignes bottles. I never seem to get the timing right with these. I thought this might be in a good zone, but it was dark hot (14%!) tannic and far removed from what I want in Morgon, or frankly from what I want in wine period. I’m sure Desvignes makes great wines. Unfortunately, I never seem to buy/open them when they’re ready to show that!

Therefore, a quick replacement for Desvignes came from 2022 Wirsching Iphöfer Julius-Echter-Berg Silvaner Erste Lage, which was reliable zesty herbal silvaner with a good amount of body in the middle to work well with food, and enough nimbleness to refresh the palate. I don’t get passionate enough about Wirsching to chase them down, but nice to drink and no complaints.
 
Glad to hear I'm not the only one. And not sure I have the desire to take gambles on such long aging without more evidence that I'll find it worthwhile.

I guess you can't do everything.
 
Rahsaan, do you enjoy the Desvignes wines when you taste them within the first year or so after release?
 
originally posted by twlim:
Rahsaan, do you enjoy the Desvignes wines when you taste them within the first year or so after release?

So is that when you recommend drinking them? Either very early or very late?

I had some very young 2021s, but that was also the wrong time because they didn't show much charm. And at this rate, I'm not motivated to do too much experimenting across the cuvees at all sorts of intervals!
 
Very young is best (I loved the first vintage of Impenitents on release), but I reckon 15 years or so is pretty good as well. Otherwise they're really, really hard. The kids (okay, they're not kids now, but let an old man be) have a softer touch.
 
originally posted by Rahsaan:

So is that when you recommend drinking them? Either very early or very late?

I had some very young 2021s, but that was also the wrong time because they didn't show much charm. And at this rate, I'm not motivated to do too much experimenting across the cuvees at all sorts of intervals!

Totally fair! I guess I was wondering what persuades you to buy them...

I've found their recent vintages quite friendly on release, much more so than they were say 10-15 years ago... I guess we're charmed by different things in young Beaujolais...
 
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