The Beaujolais TN thread

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2020 Louis-Claude Desvignes, Morgon Chateau Gaillard - This is really beautiful. A new micro plot that they started bottling separately in 2020. Just all around delicious and a wonderful pairing with duck cooked in a wood burning oven.

We had it next to a 2022 Foillard Cote du Py which was good but a little closed, this wine went over very well with the elderly non-wine geeks (i.e., parents!).
 
originally posted by Jeff Grossman:
originally posted by robert ames:
originally posted by Oswaldo Costa:
2013 Thivin Zaccharie was stately last night. With a decade of bottle life, it seemed to have outgrown the carbonic elements and become more Burgundian, so that the deliciousness seemed more grounded, less desirous to fruity-please.
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so was it heading down that evolutionary slippery slope to the condition referred in beaujolais as "pinotase", where, with age, beaujolais takes on the flavours and complexities of {heaven forbid} of wines from the north, commanly known as burgundy?
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I think pinote takes more than a couple years to happen.
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not that it proves anything, but the wine is 11 years old, not a couple.
 
As confessed above (may the P'buro welcome me back), I went on a strong Hoppenot rave a while back, based on my experiences with the '20s, since recanted.

Bolstered by recent reports of '21 being a classic vintage a la '07, I was excited to see that '21 Hoppenot was available locally - both the Fleurie Moriers and l'Amandier - and was also able to get the '22 Corcelette.

The Moriers was bretty.

The l'Amandier was corked.

The Corcelette was meh.

All were big and disappointing.
 
originally posted by BJ:
Don't believe the hype!As confessed above (may the P'buro welcome me back), I went on a strong Hoppenot rave a while back, based on my experiences with the '20s, since recanted.

Bolstered by recent reports of '21 being a classic vintage a la '07, I was excited to see that '21 Hoppenot was available locally - both the Fleurie Moriers and l'Amandier - and was also able to get the '22 Corcelette.

The Moriers was bretty.

The l'Amandier was corked.

The Corcelette was meh.

All were big and disappointing.
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I remember that rave awhile back which led me to purchase some. I would say the results wine mixed.
 
God I feel guilty. But my experience at the time was true! And look at the reviews, they mirror. I don't know what's going on.

I owe you. Not sure what, but I owe you. Sorry about that.
 
originally posted by BJ:
God I feel guilty. But my experience at the time was true! And look at the reviews, they mirror. I don't know what's going on.

I owe you. Not sure what, but I owe you. Sorry about that.
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Don't worry, none of us holds it against the other when a recommendation of theirs turns out to be a complete, unmitigated disaster.

I joketh, of course, it's nothing like that; but it's best to never complain, never explain.
 
originally posted by BJ:
Robert, I AM curious what your experiences have been.
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Nothing too horrible. I can't remember which cuvees I have had, a couple were good but not great and couple just ok. I would try again if I saw one on a list.
 
2022 Yann Bertrand Fleurie Alice 6/10 - This is a new cuvee in the lineup. The 6/10 stands for 10 years of making wine and 6 consecutive years of hailstorms and it is a tribute to his wife Alice. This was tight on opening. Lots of dark, intense cassis like fruit. It opened fairly quickly into a serious wine and paired extraordinarily with every dish. I bet this will be incredible in 3-5 years but is also still enjoyable now with a little air. Overall I really like the recent Bertrand wines I have had.
 
From the recent Chambers drop.

2014 Jean-Paul Thévenet Morgon Vieilles Vignes - Demur but enticing aromatics. In that middle zone of an older wine that has not fully turned the corner into tertiary flavors. Soft pleasing fruit that had been mellowed with age. Overall a nice wine that is just lacking a little zip to be a really great wine.
 
originally posted by Robert Dentice:

From the recent Chambers drop.
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Good for you.

As always, the interesting ones went fast!

I had several hit and miss (more miss than hit) experiences with Thévenet, so I stopped trying. All things considered, sounds like it held up pretty well over 10 years.
 
originally posted by Rahsaan:
originally posted by Robert Dentice:

From the recent Chambers drop.
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Good for you.

As always, the interesting ones went fast!

I had several hit and miss (more miss than hit) experiences with Thévenet, so I stopped trying. All things considered, sounds like it held up pretty well over 10 years.
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It has held up well. And with some air and served slightly cooler it was extremely good.
 
originally posted by Robert Dentice:

From the recent Chambers drop.

2014 Jean-Paul Thévenet Morgon Vieilles Vignes - Demur but enticing aromatics. In that middle zone of an older wine that has not fully turned the corner into tertiary flavors. Soft pleasing fruit that had been mellowed with age. Overall a nice wine that is just lacking a little zip to be a really great wine.
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Nice note...

I have a number of these awaiting shipment, will post...mainly Chermette...
 
'21 Frederic Sornin Morgon Charmes

I am a big fan of this wine, which shows up at our local coop like clockwork - a wine I always look forward to. From the ridge just adjacent to Corcelette.

I have been keeping my eyes open for '21s per folks' recommendation.

This, actually denser than expected. I have found previous vintages to close down, in some cases quite hard, for a couple years. Perhaps this is on the edge of that...

This wine always brings to mind strawberries, but here...more like a dense strawberry fruit peel or something. A bit one dimensional, and the more I drink, the more I think it is closing down...
 
...and then, the '21 Alexandre Burgaud Brouilly...

Simply better than the Sornin right now...gamay fruit, smoke, Christmas spice, nothing too demanding, a little lifty fizzy zip that I wrinkle my nose at but deem ok, fine with roast pork tenderloin and sauteed brocolli.
 
'21 Jean-Michel Dupre Coteaux du Lyonnais (thinking it doesn't make sense to do a dedicated CdL thread)...

As simple as they come. Brings to mind Jeff Grossman's comment in Seattle about a 15 year old Jadot Beaujolais (I think that's what it was): "Might be good with some bread".
 
Hey BJ
I was in my local wine shop yesterday bitchin about hot vintages and big Beaujolais, and the owner asked if I wanted to taste something that was the opposite. He poured me a taste of the very same Dupre CdL! It’s a wine that could be served in a pichet for 5e in a cafe with the plat du jour or some saucisson sec. There’s a role for it.

Very limited take for me but on two recent tastes, I like what ‘22 has to offer at least on these 2. Maybe not a perfect Goldilocks vintage but the wines were red fruited, ready to drink, juicy, ripe but not over the top and will be very useful for the table for the next few years. I’ll try to post a detailed note on the wines when I have a minute.
 
Impulse-bought a 2022 Domaine de Robert (Patrick Brunet) Morgon Côte du Py an hour ago and it's the color of Cornas from a hot year. Kinda smells like Cornas too. On the palate: sauce. Importer label (Fleet Street) says 13%, but I'm not buying it ... well, I bought it, but won't again.
 
‘22 Roilette 14%abv A favorite version of this in recent years. Red berry fruit even going to pomegranate. Nice acidity. Some tannin there but it’s under the fruit at the moment. Easy to drink and ready to go. There’s a touch of heat at the finish but it didn’t bother.

‘22 Brun Cote de Brouilly This is a real charmer. 12,5% abv. Magenta red color. Pure strawberry nose and mouth. Starts out almost glou glou but the finish has a savory bitterness that reins this in. There is a hint of underripe green herb but adds to the complexity. I ordered more.

‘22 Brun L’Ancien Old reliable for me. 13% abv. Darker red than the CdB but not purple. Red berry nose, some black pepper. Easy drinker, ready to go. There’s a lactic yogurt barely noticeable if I’m nitpicking.

‘20 Foillard Morgon Cote du Py 14% abv A year ago I hated this, discouraged further Beaujolais buying for a while. It was blocky, hot and not recognizable as Gamay. I tried another one this week and it was completely transformed. Morgon Christmas spice, mix of red and black fruit. Opened up considerably with air. Ugly duckling into a swan. It’s still large boned but the terroir is now shining through.
 
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