The Beaujolais TN thread

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2019 Pavillon du Chavannes Côte de Brouilly ‘Cuvée des Ambassades’ was delightful over a couple days this weekend. Listed 12.5%. Crunchy red fruits and bright acidity. Very good balance. A bit underrated producer in my experience. Nice old school feel to it.
 
originally posted by Ian Fitzsimmons:
It would be great to hear about what you hear at your friend's, many thanks.

Clay is just fine-grained soil, right? I'd expect granitic and tuffeau-based soils to be generally at the sandy end of the grain size spectrum. Clay's fine grains cause high capillary pressure in the vines' root zones, impeding drainage, whereas sandy soils drain well. With clay, you'd expect generally more persistent water availability after precipitation than in sandy soil. Different species will be better adapted to different conditions, e.g., Cabernet Sauvignon and Merlot. Apparently, Gamay is versatile enough to produce well in both these conditions, albeit with variations.

Anyway, I asked you about the experience, the rest is beside the point. Thanks for your take. I'll have my ear cocked for clay, as it were, the next time I open a bottle of Desvignes.

I dimly recall superlatives associated with some of the St. Emilion and Pomerol wines but don't traffic much in Bordeaux. Apropos the adjacent Loire red threads, though, Cheval Blanc is mostly (entirely?) Cab Franc, isn't it?
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re: cab franc and cheval blanc: the blend can approach 50% CF, the rest merlot, except for sometimes at least, a bit of cabernet sauvignon. for any bordeaux of fame and note, chveal blanc leads the way in percentage of cab franc in the blend. cabernet franc's strong personality in comparison the merlot creates the impression that it is cab franc based, but i believe that it is nearly always less that 50%.
 
originally posted by BJ:
Hi Brian,

I 100% agree w you on Chavannes...I frankly prefer them by a fair margin to Thivin.
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2019 apparently marked a generational winemaker change, as well as some new purchased property at the very top of the hill. Will be curious to follow where the estate goes.
 
2014 Clos de la Roilette Fleurie is in a really beautiful place. My only complaint is that is evaporated! The fruit is lovely and the wine is in complete harmony.
 
originally posted by Robert Dentice:
2014 Clos de la Roilette Fleurie is in a really beautiful place. My only complaint is that is evaporated! The fruit is lovely and the wine is in complete harmony.
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I had that happen recently to a bottle of '22 Grezeaux but I think I'm in the wrong thread.
 
originally posted by Robert Dentice:
2014 Clos de la Roilette Fleurie is in a really beautiful place. My only complaint is that is evaporated!
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Nice. More motivation. A month later from up thread and I haven't gotten to the 14 Tardive.
 
originally posted by Brian C:
originally posted by BJ:
Hi Brian,

I 100% agree w you on Chavannes...I frankly prefer them by a fair margin to Thivin.
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2019 apparently marked a generational winemaker change, as well as some new purchased property at the very top of the hill. Will be curious to follow where the estate goes.
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That is interesting, the last one I had I didn't love...don't remember what year.
 
originally posted by robert ames:
originally posted by Ian Fitzsimmons:

I dimly recall superlatives associated with some of the St. Emilion and Pomerol wines but don't traffic much in Bordeaux. Apropos the adjacent Loire red threads, though, Cheval Blanc is mostly (entirely?) Cab Franc, isn't it?
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re: cab franc and cheval blanc: the blend can approach 50% CF, the rest merlot, except for sometimes at least, a bit of cabernet sauvignon. for any bordeaux of fame and note, chveal blanc leads the way in percentage of cab franc in the blend. cabernet franc's strong personality in comparison the merlot creates the impression that it is cab franc based, but i believe that it is nearly always less that 50%.
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Ah, thanks.
 
Had another bottle of that '13 JP Brun Morgon...I enjoy this wine, one of those wines that could only emerge out of Beaujolais. Bricking orange rind, energetic, atypical but enjoyable. The Mme and I are both struggling to describe it...mostly about acidic energy.
 
'17 Roilette normale...now showing excellently. Strawberries/smoke/plum/ready for action/dusty/chalk. Delish.
 
2021 Chignard Julienas Beauvernay was gorgeous the other night, albeit in a young Gamay sorta way. Juicy, crunchy, red-fruited with mineral tinges, it went really well with the bunny we were eating. I'm really grooving on the 2021 vintage.

Mark Lipton
 
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