The Beaujolais TN thread

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The CT notes seem positive, but one never knows.

John Gilman has a note from 2019 and says start drinking in 2025. Ever the long termer, he says til 2050...but that makes sense to me for this one.

I think I last peeked in about five years ago and wasn't sure what to make of it...just decided to keep aging to submission.
 
nothing wrong with it, man
just not exactly my style
it's what his corpulence would call symphonic where a chamber performance would suffice
 
originally posted by Pavel Tchichikov:
nothing wrong with it, man
just not exactly my style
it's what his corpulence would call symphonic where a chamber performance would suffice
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A bit confused here . . .
Are we talking about 2009 or Coudert generally?
I’ve not had much luck with that producer; some years better than others.
Better luck with Brun and Chermette but not always.
Still looking for a reliable trio or chamber performance in the crus.
 
originally posted by Florida Jim:
originally posted by Pavel Tchichikov:
nothing wrong with it, man
just not exactly my style
it's what his corpulence would call symphonic where a chamber performance would suffice
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A bit confused here . . .
Are we talking about 2009 or Coudert generally?
I’ve not had much luck with that producer; some years better than others.
Better luck with Brun and Chermette but not always.
Still looking for a reliable trio or chamber performance in the crus.
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Chignard often hits that for me, Jim. Tried them yet?
 
'15 Chermette VV Traditionnelle. Remember these? Such a go to about 15 years ago...

This...slightly on the backside of peak maturity, but pleasant. Graham cracker, black licorice. Surprisingly long en bouche, nicely lingerey.

We also have a had a few bottles of '14 recently. Those, definitely over the hill - barely held together, needs to be be drunk within an hour of opening. Similar, lesser version of the '15.

These wines are so terrific young...tho I haven't had a young one in over a decade. Maybe they've gotten over dense, as with so many Beaujolais.

The recent '15 Prebende Asmaquer was better than this.
 
If you see it, check it out. I hate shit notes like "joyous", but hey crunchers...this is joyous. Check it.
 
It being a Friday nite, I asked the Mme if she wanted to try the '12 Trad. Of course she did.

It's nice - fun to try next to the '15. There's a bit more complexity on the front end - Christmas baking spice and plum - but the finish dissipates pretty quickly. The nose is a bit of a bricky wall. It actually really recalls a spiced plum jam we made off an Italian plum tree at our old house - not overly sweet at all. Something really nice on unleavened wheat crackers with a bit of cheese (talking the jam here).

Fun times here in Jet City!

Get ready for Thanksgiving crunchies!!!
 
To celebrate the return of our son for Thanksgiving, we had some duck confit and to go with it a bottle of 2011 Clos de Roilette Fleurie . Finally, a bottle of Roilette that was open and ready to go. Darker completed but smooth with still some lush fruit, and a great match for the duck.

Mark Lipton
 
2021 Guy Breton P'tit Max was a bit of a disappointment last night. Had all the right aromas, but was a bit thin and acidic. We like slim vintages, but not skin & bones.
 
2021 Foillard Fleurie was joy in a glass, flamboyantly floral nose, beautifully red fruited with plenty of stuffing. The moderate body was framed by brisk acidity. Distinctly more-ish. 11-12% ABV per the back label.

Mark Lipton
 
gotta drink nouveau in the spirit of thanksgiving
or at least 'nouveau'
i drink so little gamay that i've forgotten how good christian ducroux prologue can be
this is a 2020 (despite not being able to tell through labels/back-labels with the code here 'L200 01' while some of the others have the vintage hand written), and it hits the spot with low-alcohol (11.5) purity, refreshingly dry and precise, cranberry/rowanberry but expanding towards black cherry with air, a touch floral and blatantly unfiltered which may or may not be partly responsible for its lovely texture which is quite a feat given its medium-to-light body.
funny how this is both the best of modern-day natural winemaking and yet nostalgia-inducing if you are old enough to have consumed low-alcohol pure-fruited beverages on a daily basis
 
originally posted by Pavel Tchichikov:
gotta drink nouveau in the spirit of thanksgiving
or at least 'nouveau'
i drink so little gamay that i've forgotten how good christian ducroux prologue can be
this is a 2020 (despite not being able to tell through labels/back-labels with the code here 'L200 01' while some of the others have the vintage hand written), and it hits the spot with low-alcohol (11.5) purity, refreshingly dry and precise, cranberry/rowanberry but expanding towards black cherry with air, a touch floral and blatantly unfiltered which may or may not be partly responsible for its lovely texture which is quite a feat given its medium-to-light body.
funny how this is both the best of modern-day natural winemaking and yet nostalgia-inducing if you are old enough to have consumed low-alcohol pure-fruited beverages on a daily basis
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I opened an Expectatia in Paris three months ago (forgot the vintage, but recent), and on the first evening it bordered on excess volatility. We skipped a day and on the third evening it was a bacteriological mess. This flirting with disaster, like a circus tamer sticking his head in the lion's mouth (perhaps a little less extreme) is part of the dubious excitement of Ducroux, so caveat emptor for those who might interpret "best of modern-day natural winemaking" as (that elusive holy grail of) defect-free heterodoxy.
 
originally posted by Oswaldo Costa:
originally posted by Pavel Tchichikov:
gotta drink nouveau in the spirit of thanksgiving
or at least 'nouveau'
i drink so little gamay that i've forgotten how good christian ducroux prologue can be
this is a 2020 (despite not being able to tell through labels/back-labels with the code here 'L200 01' while some of the others have the vintage hand written), and it hits the spot with low-alcohol (11.5) purity, refreshingly dry and precise, cranberry/rowanberry but expanding towards black cherry with air, a touch floral and blatantly unfiltered which may or may not be partly responsible for its lovely texture which is quite a feat given its medium-to-light body.
funny how this is both the best of modern-day natural winemaking and yet nostalgia-inducing if you are old enough to have consumed low-alcohol pure-fruited beverages on a daily basis
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I opened an Expectatia in Paris three months ago (forgot the vintage, but recent), and on the first evening it bordered on excess volatility. We skipped a day and on the third evening it was a bacteriological mess. This flirting with disaster, like a circus tamer sticking his head in the lion's mouth (perhaps a little less extreme) is part of the dubious excitement of Ducroux, so caveat emptor for those who might interpret "best of modern-day natural winemaking" as (that elusive holy grail of) defect-free heterodoxy.
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I had a crazy volatile 2005 Clos des Mouches Drouhin rouge two weeks ago. Your point is?
 
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