The Beaujolais TN thread

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originally posted by Pavel Tchichikov:
originally posted by Oswaldo Costa:
originally posted by Pavel Tchichikov:
gotta drink nouveau in the spirit of thanksgiving
or at least 'nouveau'
i drink so little gamay that i've forgotten how good christian ducroux prologue can be
this is a 2020 (despite not being able to tell through labels/back-labels with the code here 'L200 01' while some of the others have the vintage hand written), and it hits the spot with low-alcohol (11.5) purity, refreshingly dry and precise, cranberry/rowanberry but expanding towards black cherry with air, a touch floral and blatantly unfiltered which may or may not be partly responsible for its lovely texture which is quite a feat given its medium-to-light body.
funny how this is both the best of modern-day natural winemaking and yet nostalgia-inducing if you are old enough to have consumed low-alcohol pure-fruited beverages on a daily basis
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I opened an Expectatia in Paris three months ago (forgot the vintage, but recent), and on the first evening it bordered on excess volatility. We skipped a day and on the third evening it was a bacteriological mess. This flirting with disaster, like a circus tamer sticking his head in the lion's mouth (perhaps a little less extreme) is part of the dubious excitement of Ducroux, so caveat emptor for those who might interpret "best of modern-day natural winemaking" as (that elusive holy grail of) defect-free heterodoxy.
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I had a crazy volatile 2005 Clos des Mouches Drouhin rouge two weeks ago. Your point is?
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Really?
 
Now you got me looking for them.

'21 Perdriziere. Really reduced on opening...I double decanted and fridged for next day...which is today.

Reduction gone. First impression is heavy metal...and now seeing Wasserman write up - on iron oxide and manganese soil so no surprises there. Very dense and compressed, interesting wine. Strong bing cherry at a couple points.

I'm curious how this would age. Could be good, but not sure.
 
we drink gallons of sérol in teh fatschloss, but it is virtually all teh éclat de granite. i love that shit so much that every now and then i am tempted to experiment with teh other, spendier cuvées.

after a glass or so of these, i inevitably find myself thinking "interesting wine." at which point, feeling like jack with his magic beans, i invite teh fatsink to join in.

fb.
 
originally posted by fatboy:
we drink gallons of sérol in teh fatschloss, but it is virtually all teh éclat de granite. i love that shit so much that every now and then i am tempted to experiment with teh other, spendier cuvées.

after a glass or so of these, i inevitably find myself thinking "interesting wine." at which point, feeling like jack with his magic beans, i invite teh fatsink to join in.

fb.
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nice summary fb yes
 
originally posted by fatboy:
we drink gallons of sérol in teh fatschloss, but it is virtually all teh éclat de granite. i love that shit so much that every now and then i am tempted to experiment with teh other, spendier cuvées.

after a glass or so of these, i inevitably find myself thinking "interesting wine." at which point, feeling like jack with his magic beans, i invite teh fatsink to join in.

fb.
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other than having converted to metric system (oddly, on this side of the pond) it's all eclat de granite these days because that's all i can get in (what's the equivalent between boston and new york of dr lipton's flyover country concept)

i did try the others while in beaune a couple of times but so far have not felt the need to apply for interstate travel papers to search for them
 
originally posted by Pavel Tchichikov:

other than having converted to metric system (oddly, on this side of the pond) it's all eclat de granite these days because that's all i can get in (what's the equivalent between boston and new york of dr lipton's flyover country concept)
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Drive-past country, mayhap?

i did try the others while in beaune a couple of times but so far have not felt the need to apply for interstate travel papers to search for them
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originally posted by Oswaldo Costa:
originally posted by Pavel Tchichikov:
originally posted by Oswaldo Costa:
originally posted by Pavel Tchichikov:
gotta drink nouveau in the spirit of thanksgiving
or at least 'nouveau'
i drink so little gamay that i've forgotten how good christian ducroux prologue can be
this is a 2020 (despite not being able to tell through labels/back-labels with the code here 'L200 01' while some of the others have the vintage hand written), and it hits the spot with low-alcohol (11.5) purity, refreshingly dry and precise, cranberry/rowanberry but expanding towards black cherry with air, a touch floral and blatantly unfiltered which may or may not be partly responsible for its lovely texture which is quite a feat given its medium-to-light body.
funny how this is both the best of modern-day natural winemaking and yet nostalgia-inducing if you are old enough to have consumed low-alcohol pure-fruited beverages on a daily basis
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I opened an Expectatia in Paris three months ago (forgot the vintage, but recent), and on the first evening it bordered on excess volatility. We skipped a day and on the third evening it was a bacteriological mess. This flirting with disaster, like a circus tamer sticking his head in the lion's mouth (perhaps a little less extreme) is part of the dubious excitement of Ducroux, so caveat emptor for those who might interpret "best of modern-day natural winemaking" as (that elusive holy grail of) defect-free heterodoxy.
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I had a crazy volatile 2005 Clos des Mouches Drouhin rouge two weeks ago. Your point is?
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Really?
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yes really.
just looking for an opportunity to join a class action initiative here, if we can also include the best of modern-day negotiants masquerading as artisan winemakers in ancient fanatically-tended to family parcels.
 
originally posted by Pavel Tchichikov:
originally posted by Oswaldo Costa:
originally posted by Pavel Tchichikov:
originally posted by Oswaldo Costa:
originally posted by Pavel Tchichikov:
gotta drink nouveau in the spirit of thanksgiving
or at least 'nouveau'
i drink so little gamay that i've forgotten how good christian ducroux prologue can be
this is a 2020 (despite not being able to tell through labels/back-labels with the code here 'L200 01' while some of the others have the vintage hand written), and it hits the spot with low-alcohol (11.5) purity, refreshingly dry and precise, cranberry/rowanberry but expanding towards black cherry with air, a touch floral and blatantly unfiltered which may or may not be partly responsible for its lovely texture which is quite a feat given its medium-to-light body.
funny how this is both the best of modern-day natural winemaking and yet nostalgia-inducing if you are old enough to have consumed low-alcohol pure-fruited beverages on a daily basis
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I opened an Expectatia in Paris three months ago (forgot the vintage, but recent), and on the first evening it bordered on excess volatility. We skipped a day and on the third evening it was a bacteriological mess. This flirting with disaster, like a circus tamer sticking his head in the lion's mouth (perhaps a little less extreme) is part of the dubious excitement of Ducroux, so caveat emptor for those who might interpret "best of modern-day natural winemaking" as (that elusive holy grail of) defect-free heterodoxy.
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I had a crazy volatile 2005 Clos des Mouches Drouhin rouge two weeks ago. Your point is?
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Really?
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yes really.
just looking for an opportunity to join a class action initiative here, if we can also include the best of modern-day negotiants masquerading as artisan winemakers in ancient fanatically-tended to family parcels.
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An excellent idea. A class action (by a class act) to save artisan wine from those who give it a bad rep, either by being too careless on the producing side or too forgiving on the consuming side.
 
Hey, this is pretty good++! Dense wine, has softened nicely. Sappy, black cherry, cranberry, pine, with a bit of air a thrusty acid kicky finish, nothing OTT.

Oh yeah, this one had a natural cork...looks like there was a natural/plastique mix.
 
Bacchus giveth with one cup and taketh with another... Foillard 2019 Morgon was kinda grapey and gentian-inflected when popped, but today it is all funk and mouse, bleh.
 
09 Laurent Gauthier Morgon CdP VV Cellared since release. Christmas spice, strawberries, and sap on nose, repeating with some graham cracker, pine, forest floor, nice balance and acid presence. Sneaky thrust at end. Had this over the years and this is definitely the best - and a sign that the 09s finally might be lighting up. Perfect on Christmas Eve.
 
09 JP Brun Fleurie Sad about this one - maderized nose, and cork was a bit dry. I did cellar some of this on release, but I think also bought some later - willing to bet this is one of those. Damn shame as in the mouth this transcended just enough to show its stuff - quite a bit of forest floor earthy complexity, thrusty, but sort of collapsed. Maybe another bottle... I seem to remember someone recently here posted positively...
 
It's pretty good. Nice with food. Hot bricks, cranberries, balance, acid. Not exciting, but pretty good.
 
originally posted by Pavel Tchichikov:
originally posted by BJ:
OK, I checked out the Serol. It's great!
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Eclat de Granite? which vintage?? i am still on 21 :-)
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Hey, finally joined the club on this...found and opened!

Very reduced, but decanted...and can tell it is great behind the spark!
 
Very interesting...reading up on Serol on the Wasserman site and see that Serol intro'ed them to Ogereau...which totally makes sense, totally cut from the same cloth...
 
For consumption over the weekend, opened a mag of 2009 Guy Breton Morgon Vieilles Vignes and it is simply divine. Lightweight but complex, goes down like how I suppose water from an Appalachian mountain stream must go down. If you see one at your neighborhood wine store, don't hesitate.
 
originally posted by Oswaldo Costa:
For consumption over the weekend, opened a mag of 2009 Guy Breton Morgon Vieilles Vignes and it is simply divine. Lightweight but complex, goes down like how I suppose water from an Appalachian mountain stream must go down. If you see one at your neighborhood wine store, don't hesitate.
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‘Haven’t seen any around but I can do that mountain stream thing as soon as they thaw a bit.
-snort-
 
originally posted by Oswaldo Costa:
...a mag of 2009 Guy Breton Morgon Vieilles Vignes and it is simply divine...If you see one at your neighborhood wine store, don't hesitate.
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Sounds great. Glad it worked out. Although given the uneven experiences I've had with Breton, I think hesitation is always in order!
 
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