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. . . . . Pete
 
Those pairings look lovely, although Araujo, Syrah is not my thing.
My last bottle of ‘77 Fonseca got opened within the last year and it was everything I could ask for.
 
The Schoss Gobelsburg Tradition is a bit of an outlier coming from a straightlaced winery known for achieving near-perfection in every wine they release. As much as I enjoy other producers' wines from Kamptal (Loimer, Jurtschitsch, and Bründlmayer are among my favorites), Michael Moosbrugger continually makes benchmark wines at Gobelsburg that define why Austria would be my country-of-choice were I stuck on a desert island with wine from only one country. And were I on this island, I'd get more bang for my Euro sticking with Austria; with the exception of this particular bottling (and FX Pichler's "M" and "Unendlich" releases), I find Austrian wines in general to be the best values in the wine world in terms of what they deliver for the price.

-Eden (as they say in Burgenland, "loess is Moric")

(thank you, I'll show myself out)
 
The Chablis was everything you would expect from Dauvissat Les Clos, probably the wine of the evening in some guys' eyes (palates?). A bit on the hard side, excellent balance of all the right components, classic, citrus, a honeyed nuance, and much more. Having said the foregoing, it was WAY to young.

Perfect match with the Salmon Belly dish...



. . . . . Pete
 
Maybe putting 'Bacalhao' in inverted commas gives the right to mispell, but it's bacalhau in Portuguese and Catalan, and bacalao in Spanish.

Chocolate Cremeux is a famous dessert while Cremeaux is a commune in Auvergne. Chocolate Cremeaux must be Chocolate Cremeux as they make it in Cremeaux.

I just picked two dishes at random and both had typos. That was all I had time for.
 
originally posted by Florida Jim: Those pairings look lovely, although Araujo, Syrah is not my thing.
My last bottle of ‘77 Fonseca got opened within the last year and it was everything I could ask for.
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Jim, agree with you on the Araujo Syrah. Devoid of charm in my opinion.

Also agree with you on the Fonseca '77. Too bad it came along after so much wine preceding it. I hadn't had it in a long time so I was a little surprised the color wasn't darker. It showed very well with the Chocolate Cremeaux...



. . . . . Pete
 
originally posted by Eden Mylunsch:
The Schoss Gobelsburg Tradition

(thank you, I'll show myself out)
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Eden, please don't do that.

The Schloss Gobelsburg Tradition Heritage 50 Years is quite an item. As I understand it (?), they chose to use the winegrowing style from the 50 year interval of 1800 - 1850. This bottling was the 2018 production. It was delightful and worked well with the Maine Lobster dish...



. . . . . . Pete
 
That menu looks quite appealing, Pete, though I'd probably pass on a couple dishes at the end. How did you feel about that Schloss Gobelsburg bottling? It sounds... interesting (31 vintages, 9 grapes).

Mark Lipton
 
originally posted by Oswaldo Costa:

I just picked two dishes at random and both had typos. That was all I had time for.
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At this point, it's almost too obvious. Like Pete's crew intentionally mangles language.
 
originally posted by Eden Mylunsch:
...why Austria would be my country-of-choice were I stuck on a desert island with wine from only one country. And were I on this island, I'd get more bang for my Euro sticking with Austria...
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Bold statements. Although presumably if you were stuck on a desert island you wouldn't be worried about value, because you would have an endless supply in this hypothetical scenario.

But nitpicking aside, I would have put Austria lower because of the red wines. While delicious, not sure they would quite make it into my top rung. For that reason, as well as diversity of white and red and sparkling and dessert wines that I would want to drink, it's France all day every day on this desert island.
 
originally posted by Rahsaan:
originally posted by Eden Mylunsch:
...why Austria would be my country-of-choice were I stuck on a desert island with wine from only one country. And were I on this island, I'd get more bang for my Euro sticking with Austria...
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Bold statements. Although presumably if you were stuck on a desert island you wouldn't be worried about value, because you would have an endless supply in this hypothetical scenario.

But nitpicking aside, I would have put Austria lower because of the red wines. While delicious, not sure they would quite make it into my top rung. For that reason, as well as diversity of white and red and sparkling and dessert wines that I would want to drink, it's France all day every day on this desert island.
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While I agree with your choice of country (how could I not?), surely you must consider that Eden would have to cash in the coconuts accumulated from the extraction of surplus value from animal labor, as well as blubber and ivory from whale hunting, at his local hypothetical wine store, so cost/benefit would remain a consideration.
 
originally posted by MLipton: How did you feel about that Schloss Gobelsburg bottling? It sounds... interesting (31 vintages, 9 grapes).
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Mark, The Schloss Gobelsburg wine was a fascinating selection with its unusual production strategy. Folks here would be pleased, probably, with the 12.5% alcohol level. It was mildly complex with a generous supply of flavors, good body, quite food friendly, no reason to hold longer. [VG - E]

I just now googled and found this website...

Harmon Skurnik

. . . . . Pete
 
originally posted by Oswaldo Costa:
originally posted by Rahsaan:
originally posted by Eden Mylunsch:
...why Austria would be my country-of-choice were I stuck on a desert island with wine from only one country. And were I on this island, I'd get more bang for my Euro sticking with Austria...
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While I agree with your choice of country (how could I not?), surely you must consider that Eden would have to cash in the coconuts accumulated from the extraction of surplus value from animal labor, as well as blubber and ivory from whale hunting, at his local hypothetical wine store, so cost/benefit would remain a consideration.
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You are correct on all counts, Oswaldo, but you neglected to factor in the modern-day expense of maintaining mermaids.

And Rahsaan, I like French wines as much as the next castaway, but would I choose them even over wine from Italy? The problem I have with the wines of both countries is that they are so diverse they force me to think about them, when I'd just want to enjoy them. I'd probably pour a glass of something and then start thinking about whether say, the similarities between Morgon and La T“che, or delving into the minutia of specific vintages or the way that a vineyard will show its personality despite the different winemakers producing wine from the site. And how many grape varieties does one really need to be able to say you "know" wine? In Italy that figure could be "a couple of quadrillion" and settling on (or "for") Austrian wine is just easier. The wines are great, there are a lot to choose from, and sometimes you can drink them to get dizzy and not with an eye toward writing a cover story for "World of Fine Wine."

It's not unlike music. One rabbit hole leads to six others and pretty soon you're hip-deep in LPs that are too obscure to be uploaded. I sometimes think to myself "wouldn't life be a lot easier if I just downloaded the soundtrack from a RomCom featuring Fleetwood Mac, Steve Miller Band, the Eagles, and Kenny G?

-Eden (who wants to deal with any of that existential wine crap when you're marooned on a desert island and you've got mermaids to care for?)
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originally posted by Eden Mylunsch:

And Rahsaan, I like French wines as much as the next castaway, but would I choose them even over wine from Italy? The problem I have with the wines of both countries is that they are so diverse they force me to think about them, when I'd just want to enjoy them.
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Not sure why the presence of options for other days has to reduce your In the Moment pleasure, but, there is a logic to your choice!
 
. I sometimes think to myself "wouldn't life be a lot easier if I just downloaded the soundtrack from a RomCom featuring Fleetwood Mac, Steve Miller Band, the Eagles, and Kenny G?
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Hopefully someone is around to slap you into sense when you start thinking that way.
 
originally posted by Christian Miller (CMM):
. I sometimes think to myself "wouldn't life be a lot easier if I just downloaded the soundtrack from a RomCom featuring Fleetwood Mac, Steve Miller Band, the Eagles, and Kenny G?
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Hopefully someone is around to slap you into sense when you start thinking that way.
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I hope so, too. I mean, Eden has opened herself up to eternity with nothing but wines from Malta.
 
originally posted by Jeff Grossman:
originally posted by Christian Miller (CMM):
. I sometimes think to myself "wouldn't life be a lot easier if I just downloaded the soundtrack from a RomCom featuring Fleetwood Mac, Steve Miller Band, the Eagles, and Kenny G?
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Hopefully someone is around to slap you into sense when you start thinking that way.
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I hope so, too. I mean, Eden has opened herself up to eternity with nothing but wines from Malta.
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Or Pantelleria.
 
Fascinating to see foie gras in its historical place on the menu. It used to be taken with claret and salad, which is a fairly brutal juxtaposition.
 
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