The light, delicate, elegant red thread
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I had logged away in the back corners Folk Machine. In Madison for work, at a very nice deli, and lo and behold: Folk Machine. '23 Pinot Noir Central Coast.
As light as they come. Reminds me of a country Reuilly or similar. A very sneaky wine esp on the back end...almost watery, but you could tell that was a feint...air brought out a lot of weight. Country pinot profile, a lot of quality ganja, fir, and pine.
What a reasonable value, I think this was something like $22.
We fly to Santa Rosa tomorrow, and hope to make a visit to the domaine.
As light as they come. Reminds me of a country Reuilly or similar. A very sneaky wine esp on the back end...almost watery, but you could tell that was a feint...air brought out a lot of weight. Country pinot profile, a lot of quality ganja, fir, and pine.
What a reasonable value, I think this was something like $22.
We fly to Santa Rosa tomorrow, and hope to make a visit to the domaine.
Pavel Tchichikov
Pavel Tchichikov
finally i am able to contribute to the light, delicate, elegant thread (assuming that all three conditions are necessary as most of the wines i drink satisfy two out of three)
2001 jacky truchot morey st denis 1er cru 'les ruchots' is an illustration of why we engage in the silliest and largely frustrating endeavour of chasing great burgundy
it is delicate and transparent indeed, with beguiling and subtle aromas that combine the five essential elements of fruit, flower, earth, animal, and equal temperament; deceptively light on the palate where it balances fully secondary development with freshness, while gaining energy, bounce, and precision of mineral, leading to an expansion of citrus and red brick-ish texture in an absurdly long and weightless finish.
i'd need to confirm but this had every indication of having been raised without new oak
upon reflection, the books checked out at your local library will tell you that winemaking and viticulture have improved greatly, which is in many ways responsible for our having fewer 'bad' vintages, if any, in recent decades.
by definition such improvements have a non-zero correlation with internationalization, and it is in this landscape that tasting a wine that simply could not have come from anywhere else in the world is that much more special
pure magic, my friends and comrades. in fact i'd say the wine of the month if it weren't for a small matter of aforementioned 52 le mont demi-sec...
2001 jacky truchot morey st denis 1er cru 'les ruchots' is an illustration of why we engage in the silliest and largely frustrating endeavour of chasing great burgundy
it is delicate and transparent indeed, with beguiling and subtle aromas that combine the five essential elements of fruit, flower, earth, animal, and equal temperament; deceptively light on the palate where it balances fully secondary development with freshness, while gaining energy, bounce, and precision of mineral, leading to an expansion of citrus and red brick-ish texture in an absurdly long and weightless finish.
i'd need to confirm but this had every indication of having been raised without new oak
upon reflection, the books checked out at your local library will tell you that winemaking and viticulture have improved greatly, which is in many ways responsible for our having fewer 'bad' vintages, if any, in recent decades.
by definition such improvements have a non-zero correlation with internationalization, and it is in this landscape that tasting a wine that simply could not have come from anywhere else in the world is that much more special
pure magic, my friends and comrades. in fact i'd say the wine of the month if it weren't for a small matter of aforementioned 52 le mont demi-sec...
Ian Fitzsimmons
Ian Fitzsimmons
2012 Henri Prudhon & Fils Saint-Aubin 1er Cru Sur le Sentier du Clou VV - 12/8/2023
Like other recent bottles, this was a lot of fun. Consistent experience - first glass is a bit too sere and tannic, but additional fruit makes its way downstage with each successive glass, making for a really friendly, pleasant red Burgundy experience without a lot of pomp. Perhaps I'm drinking them a little too soon. A bargain at the purchase price of about $25 - house Burgundy?
Like other recent bottles, this was a lot of fun. Consistent experience - first glass is a bit too sere and tannic, but additional fruit makes its way downstage with each successive glass, making for a really friendly, pleasant red Burgundy experience without a lot of pomp. Perhaps I'm drinking them a little too soon. A bargain at the purchase price of about $25 - house Burgundy?
Ian Fitzsimmons
Ian Fitzsimmons
Yes. Did I do it wrong?
Eden Mylunsch
Eden Mylunsch
2021 Rosi Schuster Aus Den Dörnfern
I was in LA getting a haircut (literally, although it wasn't inexpensive) yesterday and stopped at Elf Cafe for lunch in Echo Park. Excellent food (particularly for the dingy part of Sunset Blvd), with a decent wine list. Ordered Schuster's most recent Aus Den Dörnfern Red for $46 and it was the right wine for the time. It's got bright fruit with a little darkness hovering ominously around in the background, but rather than clouding the moment, it adds gravitas -- it's got persistence but not weight. Hannes Schuster (winemaker and Rosi's son) is Roland Velich's (he of Moric renown) protege and has figured out how to maintain lightness, despite the wine being a meld of Rotburger, Blaufrankisch and Sankt Laurent, three varieties that don't exactly trip blithely off the tongues of those of us who've only recently mastered the pronunciation of "Bourgueil." This is a regional wine, with the grapes coming from the area around Rust, on the south-western side of the Neusiedler See.
-Eden (speaking of ominous, we were the only people drinking wine at lunch. Everyone else was swilling coffee or mocktails. Their loss I guess)
I was in LA getting a haircut (literally, although it wasn't inexpensive) yesterday and stopped at Elf Cafe for lunch in Echo Park. Excellent food (particularly for the dingy part of Sunset Blvd), with a decent wine list. Ordered Schuster's most recent Aus Den Dörnfern Red for $46 and it was the right wine for the time. It's got bright fruit with a little darkness hovering ominously around in the background, but rather than clouding the moment, it adds gravitas -- it's got persistence but not weight. Hannes Schuster (winemaker and Rosi's son) is Roland Velich's (he of Moric renown) protege and has figured out how to maintain lightness, despite the wine being a meld of Rotburger, Blaufrankisch and Sankt Laurent, three varieties that don't exactly trip blithely off the tongues of those of us who've only recently mastered the pronunciation of "Bourgueil." This is a regional wine, with the grapes coming from the area around Rust, on the south-western side of the Neusiedler See.
-Eden (speaking of ominous, we were the only people drinking wine at lunch. Everyone else was swilling coffee or mocktails. Their loss I guess)
Peter Creasey
Peter Creasey
Eden, this Schuster Aus Den Dörfern Red '21 sounds interesting at an attractive price -- clever of you to notice and select it. I wonder how widely available it is.
. . . . . Pete
. . . . . Pete
Karen Goetz
Karen Goetz
Salut! Hope your haircut was sublime. I find it hard to believe that Bourgeuil doesn't blithely trip off your tongue ... it's always tripping off my tongue and most recently in the vineyards in October last year.
Jeff Grossman
Jeff Grossman
Boor goy -- I have been on many a date....
Eden Mylunsch
Eden Mylunsch
Pete, I think it's got okay distribution around the US. As long as you don't live in someplace like North Dakota or Mississippi you should be able to track them down, either in a hipster wine shop or someplace that's received the Wine Disorder Seal of Approval.
Better yet, presuming you don't live in San Francisco or NYC, the Rosi Schuster lineup is imported by WineMonger.com and they sell offa their website. It's a solid portfolio (particularly from Austria) and it's worthwhile checking out some of their other producers. Moric and Jugini for sure, but the Neumeyer wines are extraordinary and Umathum's wines will give you a benchmark for what the wines of Burgenland should taste like.
-Eden (global warming's done been good for Burgenland!)
Better yet, presuming you don't live in San Francisco or NYC, the Rosi Schuster lineup is imported by WineMonger.com and they sell offa their website. It's a solid portfolio (particularly from Austria) and it's worthwhile checking out some of their other producers. Moric and Jugini for sure, but the Neumeyer wines are extraordinary and Umathum's wines will give you a benchmark for what the wines of Burgenland should taste like.
-Eden (global warming's done been good for Burgenland!)
Peter Creasey
Peter Creasey
Alas, despite not being in either place (thankfully), it appears that shipping would be my only recourse.
Thanks.
. . . . Pete
Christian Miller (CMM)
Christian Miller
Yet another light, delicate red from an unexpected place - Swartland. Not sure it qualifies as elegant.
Swartland Red Blend "Curator" 2023, AA Badenhorst - medium purpley-red color; fruity raspberry aroma with Cinsault-like herbal notes; light body, very young tanky/fruity flavor with balancing acidity, minimal tannin but quite dry, medium length. It's rather simple, although distinctive. A blend of Cab, Grenache, Shiraz and Cinsault. It says it has 14% alc, but doesn't show it at all, in fact it's rather dangerously quaffable. Not quite my cup of tea, but good value at $13. I've had some excellent Chenin Blancs from this producer, and their basic Chenin is also good value. **(*)
Swartland Red Blend "Curator" 2023, AA Badenhorst - medium purpley-red color; fruity raspberry aroma with Cinsault-like herbal notes; light body, very young tanky/fruity flavor with balancing acidity, minimal tannin but quite dry, medium length. It's rather simple, although distinctive. A blend of Cab, Grenache, Shiraz and Cinsault. It says it has 14% alc, but doesn't show it at all, in fact it's rather dangerously quaffable. Not quite my cup of tea, but good value at $13. I've had some excellent Chenin Blancs from this producer, and their basic Chenin is also good value. **(*)
To bring this thread back to its starting point, tonight a friend brought a 2022 Lucien Muzard Bourgogne Rouge over and it was a lovely fresh 'light, delicate, elegant' wine. It kept hinting at juicy berry fruit, but always in a crisp Bourgogne Rouge way. Perhaps more suited to sitting outside in Paris as opposed to our Manhattan dinner party. But either way, it gave me positive emotions about Muzard.
Claude Kolm
Claude Kolm
I've liked the wines, too, and at least here in Paris, they're very well-priced, even considering that most of the appellations are not fancy ones.