Loire CF that deserves more awareness
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Another that doesn't get much mention...Philippe Alliet Chinons. We've small parcels of '14 and '16 Coteaux de Noire, and wow just full on Loire CF elegance, traditional and classic, lovely in every way with lots of inner complexity. The '16 needs decanting to open fully, but the '14 is in the perfect spot...
Pavel Tchichikov
Pavel Tchichikov
premier cote (like clos guillot) from a great producer.
doesn't need the mention :-)
Ian Fitzsimmons
Ian Fitzsimmons
A counterpoint would be the 2005 Breton Perrieres I mentioned on said other thread. "1/8/2025: Not bad, not especially good. Surprisingly underwhelming for the vintage and vigneron."
I must have overestimated the longevity of this wine, thinking perhaps of wines like Baudry's Croix Boissee or Joguet's Clos de la Dioterie.
I must have overestimated the longevity of this wine, thinking perhaps of wines like Baudry's Croix Boissee or Joguet's Clos de la Dioterie.
Pavel Tchichikov
Pavel Tchichikov
sorry to hear about 05 perrieres
i've not tried it recently but both 02 and 06 were excellent over the past year, while 05 senechal was outstanding
also 89 perrieres was kicking ass last march, so no general concerns about longevity from the tri state area chapter of the loire heads asylum
i've not tried it recently but both 02 and 06 were excellent over the past year, while 05 senechal was outstanding
also 89 perrieres was kicking ass last march, so no general concerns about longevity from the tri state area chapter of the loire heads asylum
Ian Fitzsimmons
Ian Fitzsimmons
I have more, as well as some 05 Senechal; fingers crossed it's unwonted bottle variation or very mild TCA.
I'll retrieve one of each on my next expedition to the far end of my crawl space and report back.
I'll retrieve one of each on my next expedition to the far end of my crawl space and report back.
scottreiner
scott reiner
Anything from La Porte Saint Jean (Sylvain Dittier and Pauline Foucault). From the Buturica to the straight Saumur Champigny, to the single vineyards.
Oswaldo Costa
Oswaldo Costa
A Loire CF that doesn't deserve more awareness is the 2014 Antoine Sanzay Saumur-Champigny Les Poyeux 13.0. Totally underwhelming. Had better experiences with the 2013, which says 12.0%, but nothing special.
Pavel Tchichikov
Pavel Tchichikov
too bad; this producer is actually on my to-do list
continue to find this a terrible time to open 14s (both loire cab franc and red burgundy), and not for obvious reasons: more chaotic than closed
Oswaldo Costa
Oswaldo Costa
If you can, check him out for confirmation. When Rougeard hit the $trato$phere, some began to tout Sanzay's Poyeux as a substitute, but whereas the former could be accused of excess plushness, the latter is just too rustic. Maybe the Collier reds approach the Goldilocks zone here.
Oswaldo Costa
Oswaldo Costa
Didn't have either, it's more an abstract sensation analogous to gruffness, lack of polish. Your 19 might be way too young to open. Fwiw, there may be impressions on Cellatracker.
Pavel Tchichikov
Pavel Tchichikov
my exploration of loire cf excludes 19
it's been 20, 21, 22, and when necessary 18
will likely include 23
19s appear to be excellent for the most part, but even the "village" wines are closed in an impressively concentrated way
it's been 20, 21, 22, and when necessary 18
will likely include 23
19s appear to be excellent for the most part, but even the "village" wines are closed in an impressively concentrated way
Claude Kolm
Claude Kolm
Earlier this week, I purchased a bottle of 2018 Domaine de la Chevalerie Bourgueil "Peu Muleau"from a store (in Paris) that usually has good selections. It was only when I got home that I realized that the stated alcohol is 14%, and I groaned. But on opening and drinking over the subsequent two days it has shown remarkable freshness, minerality, and depth to its dark fruits, and no sense of excess alcohol.
Claude Kolm
Claude Kolm
That's a good price from Chambers. I paid (at a store that admittedly caters to a luxury clientele, and so markups can be a little on the higher side) 17.50e, or a little more than $18, although that does include the 20% VAT.