Loire CF that deserves more awareness

originally posted by Pavel Tchichikov:
originally posted by BJ:
originally posted by Pavel Tchichikov:
originally posted by BJ:
There's some '20 available locally - not my favorite vintage - but I'll check it out.
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Les Georges '20 ? Beautiful and drinking now.

If I may ask, which Loire CFs have dissatisfied you in 2020 so far? I am of a completely different opinion, at least where good producers are concerned, of which we are blessed with quite a few in the region. It is nothing like 2018 or [in some isolated cases] 2022.
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Damn, this is awesome...top tier.

Savory plus.
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BJ, I quite liked the '22 last night. Rounder/softer than the 20 but delicious nonetheless.
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10 4.

Does it also have that slight bit of volatility I feel like I detect in the '20?
 
'18 Lame Delisle Boucard Bourgueil Brunetieres. 1/4 new oak. In the house style, but I appreciated this the least of the several cuvees/vintages of theirs I've tried. The oak was to the back nite one, but nite two more apparent, tho not obtrusively so. But this didn't grab me quite as much as the Prestige and VV cuvees we've tried.
 
originally posted by BJ:
'18 Lame Delisle Boucard Bourgueil Brunetieres. 1/4 new oak. In the house style, but I appreciated this the least of the several cuvees/vintages of theirs I've tried. The oak was to the back nite one, but nite two more apparent, tho not obtrusively so. But this didn't grab me quite as much as the Prestige and VV cuvees we've tried.
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did you notice by chance if this was under natural (or diam/diam-like) cork, or nomacorc?
 
originally posted by BJ:
'18 Lame Delisle Boucard Bourgueil Brunetieres. 1/4 new oak. In the house style, but I appreciated this the least of the several cuvees/vintages of theirs I've tried. The oak was to the back nite one, but nite two more apparent, tho not obtrusively so. But this didn't grab me quite as much as the Prestige and VV cuvees we've tried.
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Thanks for this note. I just picked up a few of these for a song.
 
RWC bin sale?

To Pavel's implied point, I'm pretty certain the nomacorc did this no favors at all. I don't recall other cuvees being under nomacorc, but now I'm curious...
 
I am now confused as well - they had used the closure as early as whenever the 18 was bottled?? I buy their Dechainee in every vintage since 2019 and don't recall seeing this travesty until the 2023 edition. Perhaps I wasn't paying attention; will dig up another 2022 or 2021 and report back. I would have expected this "early drinking" cuvee to be the prime candidate of course. More to your point though, it was its use in 2020 Prestige that made me do a double take, particularly because the wine was - given my experience with previous vintages of Prestige as well as (fairly extensively) with the vintage in the region - lacking a degree of vibrancy/depth I expected, while still lovely.
 
originally posted by Pavel Tchichikov:
I am now confused as well - they had used the closure as early as whenever the 18 was bottled?? I buy their Dechainee in every vintage since 2019 and don't recall seeing this travesty until the 2023 edition. Perhaps I wasn't paying attention; will dig up another 2022 or 2021 and report back. I would have expected this "early drinking" cuvee to be the prime candidate of course. More to your point though, it was its use in 2020 Prestige that made me do a double take, particularly because the wine was - given my experience with previous vintages of Prestige as well as (fairly extensively) with the vintage in the region - lacking a degree of vibrancy/depth I expected, while still lovely.
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In an era of composite corks, I just don't understand the plastique. Why?
 
originally posted by Pavel Tchichikov:
maybe this one? btw I am happy you liked the wine. I can't keep my hands off the 2020. The 2021 on the other hand needs some serious cellar time.

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BTW thanks for posting this map, that's amazing. Where did you get it? Is that yours or a digital copy?
 
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