the new what did u drink tonite thread

originally posted by fatboy:
originally posted by mark e:

Is he ripping out the vines to replant?

nope -- the owners of the vineyards are selling, and it doesn't make sense for helmut to buy them at this stage of his career.

for now, at least, there wlil still be teh other silvaners from other vineyards. and his best weissburgunders to date, including a new cuvee thereof. which reminds me, i should ask him about when he is going to bottle it.

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Are the wines available anywhere outside of Germany?
 
originally posted by Pavel Tchichikov:
originally posted by mark e:
I have found that the answer to most questions is German silvaner these days, particularly with green garlic playing a role this month in most meals. I look forward to it (the vegetable) every year - and if you aren't using it you might look beyond the supermarket for your greens.
technically not allowed to eat the white parts, but can cheat just enough to appreciate the flavour combo.
Please explain, thanks. The white part is what most people eat, but I use the whole thing.
 
originally posted by mark e:
originally posted by fatboy:
originally posted by mark e:

Are the wines available anywhere outside of Germany?
they have been available on and off in the us at least (https://www.superglou.com/dolde -- not sure what the current state play is), but i'm not sure any made it north of teh baltic. though i stand to be corrected.

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No, none of it made it here, alas. Though Norway is a huge importer of German wines (second only to the US) in terms of value.
 
originally posted by mark e:
No, none of it made it here, alas. Though Norway is a huge importer of German wines (second only to the US) in terms of value.

if you are willing to eat teh import tariffs on gifts, i could look at posting some fun examples from teh fatcave.

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originally posted by fatboy:
originally posted by mark e:
No, none of it made it here, alas. Though Norway is a huge importer of German wines (second only to the US) in terms of value.

if you are willing to eat teh import tariffs on gifts, i could look at posting some fun examples from teh fatcave.

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A most generous, alas, impractical offer - given there are 5 taxes on every bottle of wine. I found this out when working with a dedicated customs clearing agent when we brought 8 cases from the US.
 
originally posted by mark e:

A most generous, alas, impractical offer - given there are 5 taxes on every bottle of wine. I found this out when working with a dedicated customs clearing agent when we brought 8 cases from the US.

would that be the same as posted from teh fatcave, given it now resides inside eta?

otherwise i will visit some time, and smuggle in teh copious undergarments as of old.

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originally posted by fatboy:
originally posted by mark e:

A most generous, alas, impractical offer - given there are 5 taxes on every bottle of wine. I found this out when working with a dedicated customs clearing agent when we brought 8 cases from the US.

would that be the same as posted from teh fatcave, given it now resides inside eta?

otherwise i will visit some time, and smuggle in teh copious undergarments as of old.

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Yeah. Customs needs tons of paperwork as well as ransoming your firstborn child. A visit would be great - and oddly, there is a loophole for tourists and returning locals bringing wine in through ports of entry: 6 bottles duty free per person! (and minimal charges for anything over that).
 
For reasons unknown, Jean bought a couple of strip steaks this weekend. Tonight, after a long day of proposaling (amid wondering if we’re witnessing the end of scientific research in the US), we cooked them up (mesquite grilling outdoors) along with mashed spud, grilled onions and a shi’itake-shallot sauté and opened a bottle of 2014 Baudry Grezeaux, which was all about raspberries and cedar, with resolved tannins and ripping good acidity. The match with the umami-rich steak was superb and the bottle disappeared all too quickly.

Mark Lipton
 
originally posted by MLipton:
2014 Baudry Grezeaux
Mark Lipton

I opened a '14 "domaine" bottling within the past year. Two things that struck me were how excellent the wine is in general, and how neither here nor there it is right now, for my twisted taste.
 
I haven’t been great about posting. Maybe a few of us in that boat.

2022 Extradimensional Wine Co. Yeah! Figure-Ground. (12.8% ABV) 40% Old Vine Contra Costa Mourvèdre. 30% Dry Creek Zin. 10-10-10% Old Vine Contra Costa Carignane-Brousseau Chardonnay-Shake Ridge Ranch Rosé of Primativo. Lovely red-purple-orange color. Savory. Fennel seed. Petrichor. Juicy. Rhubarb. Just a hint of underripe blackberry.

Perfect pizza wine?

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originally posted by Jayson Cohen:
I haven’t been great about posting. Maybe a few of us in that boat.

IG ate the wine boards. Such is life. I fear there is no going back. Unfortunately.

originally posted by Jayson Cohen:
Perfect pizza wine?

Care to specify the pizza?
 
originally posted by Jayson Cohen:

Perfect pizza wine?

I had high hopes for this as a pizza wine tonight, as I generally find Beaujolais to be in the same exuberant delicious mode as most of my pizzas. (Tonight it was several cheeses, tomato sauce, roasted oyster mushroom, a dash of roasted spring onion and celery leaf herbs)

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Unfortunately, the hot 2018 vintage ruined things and the overripe flavors plus slight brett funk did not help. So I quickly pivoted to this:

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Which was gorgeous. A fresh clear delicate and crunchy jewel but with juicy body that stands up to the pizza. Better than another bottle from a few months ago, and much more delicate than the recent vintage Boillot I've tasted. Alas, that can be a common lament across producers...
 
originally posted by Rahsaan:
originally posted by Jayson Cohen:
I haven’t been great about posting. Maybe a few of us in that boat.

IG ate the wine boards. Such is life. I fear there is no going back. Unfortunately.

originally posted by Jayson Cohen:
Perfect pizza wine?

Care to specify the pizza?

This was from the relatively new Upside Pizza, which my youngest son really likes. But we are even more closely bounded by Mama’s Too and the even newer Super Nice Pizza, and Upside is not at that level.
 
'22 Pierre Bise Anjou Blanc Haut de la Garde

Damn, this is good, actually great, maybe even better. A ton of character in a uniquely downriver sort of way...quince, hung meat, quinine, fennel root,pine needles, evolving with air...a dry white made by a sweet white specialist...

I don't think I talked much about our Saumur stay a couple years back but we had a lot of highlights, one being visiting Pierre Bise. Really solid wines across the board, I would say classicists with a natural nod.

All the terroirs along the Loire are quite special and unique - it was a lot of fun spending time there and deepening our sense and understanding of the area. The dry Anjous of the Layon though I think are definitely underappreciated.
 
originally posted by BJ:
'22 Pierre Bise Anjou Blanc Haut de la Garde

Damn, this is good, actually great, maybe even better. A ton of character in a uniquely downriver sort of way...quince, hung meat, quinine, fennel root,pine needles, evolving with air...a dry white made by a sweet white specialist...

I don't think I talked much about our Saumur stay a couple years back but we had a lot of highlights, one being visiting Pierre Bise. Really solid wines across the board, I would say classicists with a natural nod..

Interesting, nice to hear, I suppose. So René is in full control now? Going for some funky character? (Not sure how to interpret some of those descriptors!)

I used to like Haut de la Garde for the broad brawny angles, but then Claude was going for 'optimum ripeness' and the wines seemed to have all the edges smoothed over, maybe more 'elegant', but losing character to my tastes. I didn't follow all the vintages, but this seems like yet another direction.
 
Not funky, totally clean.

This reminds me quite a bit of Chidaine from 20 years ago, a Layon version.
 
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