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the new what did u drink tonite thread
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Jeff Grossman
Jeff Grossman
Thanks, Beej. I've been wondering about Garaudet wines.
Then here's another. '19 F Garaudet Monthelie 1er la Taupine rouge. Woodsmoke and cherries, a bit single note but pure class, great from opening but certainly will age. Terrific with every dish, through smoked salmon, scallops, turbot, lamb, and cheeses.
Our first walk ('98!) went through Monthelie so very fun to have a little hommage with two such lovely wines.
Our first walk ('98!) went through Monthelie so very fun to have a little hommage with two such lovely wines.
Oswaldo Costa
Oswaldo Costa
I imagine I was not the only one impacted by Adventures on the Wine Route back in the day, so when a few bottles of 2005 Clos Sainte Magdeleine came my way, out came the nostalgia-driven wallet. The first of four last night, opened with some trepidation, was quite satisfying. Intact cork; lovely bright yellow hue, untarnished. Still quite floral, with hay and autolytic flavors, plus some tertiaries (honey and the slightest hint of maderization). Probably not designed to last this long, but that it did. Paired with a 2005 BAMA that seemed, alas, a touch heat damaged.
Jeff Grossman
Jeff Grossman
Sounds deelish, Oswaldo! (the csm, not the bama...)
1996 Thunder Mountain Bates Ranch Star Ruby RTW
This was a happy discovery. Cork was intact; dark purple color with no bricking. Nice Bordeaux style nose with fruit and a touch of eucalyptus. Oak has receded fully and a nice fruit palate remains. Not terrifically long but drinking really well tonight, great match with ribeyes off the grill.
This was a happy discovery. Cork was intact; dark purple color with no bricking. Nice Bordeaux style nose with fruit and a touch of eucalyptus. Oak has receded fully and a nice fruit palate remains. Not terrifically long but drinking really well tonight, great match with ribeyes off the grill.
Christian Miller (CMM)
Christian Miller
Three whites & a red
Gruner Veltliner Edna Valley Paragon vnyd 2019, Stereophonic (Jason Lefler) - medium-light gold; varietal nose with green/jalapeno pepper, green bean, hint of herbal fenugreek and yeast, citrus fruit; good acid, med-light body, slightly phenolic texture, dry with some persistence, stony tone on finish. More complex than basic Austrian GV or most new world versions, but doesn't have the Burgundian character of some aged old vine Austrian GV either. Very interesting wine, confirms Edna Valley as a good terroir for many aromatic unoaked whites IMHO.
Sauvignon Blanc North Coast 2023, Duckhorn - very pale white gold; moderate melon-snap pea aroma with a hint of older barrels in the background; balanced fruity palate with some barrel-influenced structure, moderate oak flavor; dry with medium length. Label says some Semillon was blended in; that plus North Coast appellation (which suggests a generous amount of Lake County SB) accounts for the low-pyrazine, round fruit, rendered in an upscale Bordeaux style. Well made, but more of an SB for people who don't really like SB. Not my style.
Pinot Gris Willamette Valley "99 West" 2023, Cultavin Cellars - pale; med strength varietal aroma with solid pear/apple fruit and a hint of smoke; med body, moderate but sufficient acid, nice ripe round fruit; med long finish maintained by the fruit and a whisper of grape and pear skin. Quite tasty, and I am not a fan of PG in general. It doesn't reach Eyrie's level but it's more than a nod in that direction. Bay area alert: it's available cheap ($5 IIRC) at Grocery Outlet in El Cerrito.
Zinfandel Dry Creek William Talty vnyd 2017, Talty - med-dark purple plum color; pretty aroma with ripe Marionberry Zin fruit, hints of sassafrass and oak, a tinge floral; med body, soft maturing tannins, plum-berry fruit, acid a bit low but it's not overripe, med-long finish with fruit/tannin/mild wood all balanced. Neither simple nor really complex, but quite tasty. I suspect some of the many Zin-phobes here would actually like this wine. 14.2% abv, pretty svelte for Zin.
Gruner Veltliner Edna Valley Paragon vnyd 2019, Stereophonic (Jason Lefler) - medium-light gold; varietal nose with green/jalapeno pepper, green bean, hint of herbal fenugreek and yeast, citrus fruit; good acid, med-light body, slightly phenolic texture, dry with some persistence, stony tone on finish. More complex than basic Austrian GV or most new world versions, but doesn't have the Burgundian character of some aged old vine Austrian GV either. Very interesting wine, confirms Edna Valley as a good terroir for many aromatic unoaked whites IMHO.
Sauvignon Blanc North Coast 2023, Duckhorn - very pale white gold; moderate melon-snap pea aroma with a hint of older barrels in the background; balanced fruity palate with some barrel-influenced structure, moderate oak flavor; dry with medium length. Label says some Semillon was blended in; that plus North Coast appellation (which suggests a generous amount of Lake County SB) accounts for the low-pyrazine, round fruit, rendered in an upscale Bordeaux style. Well made, but more of an SB for people who don't really like SB. Not my style.
Pinot Gris Willamette Valley "99 West" 2023, Cultavin Cellars - pale; med strength varietal aroma with solid pear/apple fruit and a hint of smoke; med body, moderate but sufficient acid, nice ripe round fruit; med long finish maintained by the fruit and a whisper of grape and pear skin. Quite tasty, and I am not a fan of PG in general. It doesn't reach Eyrie's level but it's more than a nod in that direction. Bay area alert: it's available cheap ($5 IIRC) at Grocery Outlet in El Cerrito.
Zinfandel Dry Creek William Talty vnyd 2017, Talty - med-dark purple plum color; pretty aroma with ripe Marionberry Zin fruit, hints of sassafrass and oak, a tinge floral; med body, soft maturing tannins, plum-berry fruit, acid a bit low but it's not overripe, med-long finish with fruit/tannin/mild wood all balanced. Neither simple nor really complex, but quite tasty. I suspect some of the many Zin-phobes here would actually like this wine. 14.2% abv, pretty svelte for Zin.
Peter Creasey
Peter Creasey
Zinfandel Dry Creek William Talty vnyd 2017, Talty
Christian, your note on this selection reminds me a bit of Juli and Fred's Scherrer Old & Mature Vines Zin...which I also think "some of the many Zin-phobes here would actually like".
. . . . . . Pete
Christian Miller (CMM)
Christian Miller
Yes it's kind of in that ballpark. Lacks a bit of the raspberry zestiness of some of my favorite Dry Creek Zins (e.g. Preston, Quivira under Grady Wann's tenure) but not all cloying or heavy.originally posted by Peter Creasey:
Zinfandel Dry Creek William Talty vnyd 2017, Talty
Christian, your note on this selection reminds me a bit of Juli and Fred's Scherrer Old & Mature Vines Zin...which I also think "some of the many Zin-phobes here would actually like".
. . . . . . Pete
I think that Scherrer's zins have been cited positively on this board in the past.
Jeff Grossman
Jeff Grossman
Centopassi 2021 Sicilia "Giato" - 13.5%, nero d'avola / perricone blend, fresh and vivid, like mixing barbera with zinfandel and serving it in a tin cup; great palate tension between the earthy nero d'avola and the aggressively-fruity perricone; a Jackson well spent; the back label brags: "Centopassi is the winemaking soul of the Libera Terra cooperatives that cultivate lands confiscated from the Mafia in Sicily...."
My last bottle of the 2007 Chandon de Briailles Pernand -Vergelesses ‘Iles des Vergelesses’ proved to be by far the most open and giving, though still with a few hard edges. Where it started out in 2014 as tart raspberry, it is now all about red cherries. It still retains a strong mineral streak and will likely never be mistaken for a “soft” wine.
Mark Lipton
Mark Lipton
Jayson Cohen
Jayson Cohen
originally posted by MLipton:
My last bottle of the 2007 Chandon de Briailles Pernand -Vergelesses ‘Iles des Vergelesses’ proved to be by far the most open and giving, though still with a few hard edges. Where it started out in 2014 as tart raspberry, it is now all about red cherries. It still retains a strong mineral streak and will likely never be mistaken for a “soft” wine.
Mark Lipton
I love this wine.
Jeff Grossman
Jeff Grossman
Ooh. I have one bottle left.originally posted by MLipton:
My last bottle of the 2007 Chandon de Briailles Pernand -Vergelesses ‘Iles des Vergelesses’ proved to be by far the most open and giving, though still with a few hard edges. Where it started out in 2014 as tart raspberry, it is now all about red cherries. It still retains a strong mineral streak and will likely never be mistaken for a “soft” wine.
The bottle with Maureen was great (I do have the vintage right?).originally posted by Jeff Grossman:
Ooh. I have one bottle left.originally posted by MLipton:
My last bottle of the 2007 Chandon de Briailles Pernand -Vergelesses ‘Iles des Vergelesses’ proved to be by far the most open and giving, though still with a few hard edges. Where it started out in 2014 as tart raspberry, it is now all about red cherries. It still retains a strong mineral streak and will likely never be mistaken for a “soft” wine.
2022 Domaine des Marrans Chiroubles
Not sure where I heard about this estate, but I ordered 2023 and got 2022 instead (typical of the Norwegian Vinmonopolet), but as soon as I tasted it I could not believe that it was 12,5% (as the website said). Well, the bottle indicated 14% and it tasted like it. Hot, pruny and overripe, dark purple color. A travesty. It be going down teh fatsink pdq.
Not sure where I heard about this estate, but I ordered 2023 and got 2022 instead (typical of the Norwegian Vinmonopolet), but as soon as I tasted it I could not believe that it was 12,5% (as the website said). Well, the bottle indicated 14% and it tasted like it. Hot, pruny and overripe, dark purple color. A travesty. It be going down teh fatsink pdq.
originally posted by VLM:
The bottle with Maureen was great (I do have the vintage right?).originally posted by Jeff Grossman:
Ooh. I have one bottle left.originally posted by MLipton:
My last bottle of the 2007 Chandon de Briailles Pernand -Vergelesses ‘Iles des Vergelesses’ ....
Vintage yes. But we had the 07 CdB Volnay Caillerets.
Odd Rydland
Odd Rydland
The importer register the data and some are very negligent on updating. Seems like you got the 2021 data.originally posted by mark e:
2022 Domaine des Marrans Chiroubles
Not sure where I heard about this estate, but I ordered 2023 and got 2022 instead (typical of the Norwegian Vinmonopolet), but as soon as I tasted it I could not believe that it was 12,5% (as the website said). Well, the bottle indicated 14% and it tasted like it. Hot, pruny and overripe, dark purple color. A travesty. It be going down teh fatsink pdq.
originally posted by Odd Rydland:
The importer register the data and some are very neglicent on updating. Seems like you got the 2021 data.originally posted by mark e:
2022 Domaine des Marrans Chiroubles
Not sure where I heard about this estate, but I ordered 2023 and got 2022 instead (typical of the Norwegian Vinmonopolet), but as soon as I tasted it I could not believe that it was 12,5% (as the website said). Well, the bottle indicated 14% and it tasted like it. Hot, pruny and overripe, dark purple color. A travesty. It be going down teh fatsink pdq.
Right. Seems to happen pretty regularly. The importers update the vintage, though what remains in the warehouse may be several different vintages, and not the one stated on the website. They are also guilty of not updating the ABV to match what the bottle says.
Mark Anisman
Mark Anisman
2014 Pierre Gonon St. Joseph Blanc Les Oliviers : 2
pearish on the nose & palate. quite fresh with balancing acidity. a bit oily. not ponderous like some Chave ones I have had in the past. last bottle from this facility but clearly has some time left at this plateau.
pearish on the nose & palate. quite fresh with balancing acidity. a bit oily. not ponderous like some Chave ones I have had in the past. last bottle from this facility but clearly has some time left at this plateau.