Has anyone had a recent 09 Lapierre?

Dropping the '09 Foillard Fleurie note here, also with other (relatively) recent Lapierre and Foillard notes (with the exception of the 2011 wines).

2009 Jean Foillard Fleurie - France, Burgundy, Beaujolais, Fleurie (5/16/2025)

Very intense dark fruit with herbal notes on the palate. Texture is silky, borderline velvety, but the acidity is adequate and not particularly crunchy like I typically associate with Beaujolais, but there is good balance. Nothing tastes roasted or overripe, besides being rather dark in profile. Certainly an enjoyable wine and arguably is beginning to "pinote" as the crunchy texture softens and takes on a more elegant profile.
2014 Jean Foillard Morgon Côte du Py - France, Burgundy, Beaujolais, Morgon (5/16/2025)

Sharp, focused, beautiful red fruit on the palate. Still slightly tannic, though there's a nice acidic bite on the finish. Probably could use more time to smooth out the rough edges, but a pretty wine.
2010 Jean Foillard Morgon Côte du Py - France, Burgundy, Beaujolais, Morgon (3/7/2025)

This was in a nice place. The acidity is nicely integrated and there's a seamless, silky texture now with juicy red fruit and a long, energetic finish. Very elegant and nimble wine that would appeal to a broad variety of palates.
2006 Marcel Lapierre Morgon - France, Burgundy, Beaujolais, Morgon (12/11/2024)

Really silky and elegant at this point in its evolution. Acidity is nicely integrated and has lost most of its crunchiness. Instead, there's a lovely red fruit layered with flavors of minerality and earth that finishes with a hint of smokiness. This has really evolved into a nice place.
2011 Marcel Lapierre Morgon N (Sans Soufre) - France, Burgundy, Beaujolais, Morgon (5/22/2024)
2011 Beaujolais Dinner (The Wolf - Oakland): A tangy, punchy wine with great concentration (one person at the table called it beefy) and red-fruited intensity, but with a carbonic edge that makes it lively and electric. Some at the table pick up some brett on the nose, though it doesn’t really bother me. Perhaps not the most elegant or regal wine with its crunchy acidity and snap, but most certainly a living wine with an inimitable identity.
2011 Marcel Lapierre Morgon Cuvée Marcel Lapierre - France, Burgundy, Beaujolais, Morgon (5/22/2024)
2011 Beaujolais Dinner (The Wolf - Oakland): It was pretty easy to tell that this was the Cuvee Marcel: a plumper version of the regular Lapierre Morgon with generous red fruit and spiky acidity. Intensely lively on the palate, but, like the Les Impenitents, this needs more time in the cellar to smooth out the edges. This is good (though I preferred the regular Lapierre Morgon today).
2011 Jean Foillard Morgon Côte du Py - France, Burgundy, Beaujolais, Morgon (5/22/2024)
2011 Beaujolais Dinner (The Wolf - Oakland): This was firing on all cylinders; it has a lot of the elegance of the Roilette, but has a slightly livelier acidic profile. The slightly darkish fruit is pleasantly restrained, giving this a rather savory flavor profile. Really, really good.
 
Now that you mention it, several bottles of 09 Lapierre open the other day at Rieslingstudy, but did not impress.

If we stick to Morgon, the magnum of 2010 Foillard Fleurie almost convinced me, but I preferred the magnum of 2014 Foillard CdP. I preferred the 2007 and 2010 3.14 even more, but those prices are insane and I'm not purchasing that. I'm also not sure my limited storage needs to invest in aging these wines for modest gains in palate elegance without the complexity of the wines I would prefer to age.

There were also a few bottles of 05 Descombes Morgon VV that were a touch bretty for my tastes and not convincing of the 20-year wait, but still very fun to taste.

But, mileage varies for different people!
 
originally posted by Yule Kim:
Dropping the '09 Foillard Fleurie note here, also with other (relatively) recent Lapierre and Foillard notes (with the exception of the 2011 wines).

2009 Jean Foillard Fleurie - France, Burgundy, Beaujolais, Fleurie (5/16/2025)

Very intense dark fruit with herbal notes on the palate. Texture is silky, borderline velvety, but the acidity is adequate and not particularly crunchy like I typically associate with Beaujolais, but there is good balance. Nothing tastes roasted or overripe, besides being rather dark in profile. Certainly an enjoyable wine and arguably is beginning to "pinote" as the crunchy texture softens and takes on a more elegant profile.
2014 Jean Foillard Morgon Côte du Py - France, Burgundy, Beaujolais, Morgon (5/16/2025)

Sharp, focused, beautiful red fruit on the palate. Still slightly tannic, though there's a nice acidic bite on the finish. Probably could use more time to smooth out the rough edges, but a pretty wine.
2010 Jean Foillard Morgon Côte du Py - France, Burgundy, Beaujolais, Morgon (3/7/2025)

This was in a nice place. The acidity is nicely integrated and there's a seamless, silky texture now with juicy red fruit and a long, energetic finish. Very elegant and nimble wine that would appeal to a broad variety of palates.
2006 Marcel Lapierre Morgon - France, Burgundy, Beaujolais, Morgon (12/11/2024)

Really silky and elegant at this point in its evolution. Acidity is nicely integrated and has lost most of its crunchiness. Instead, there's a lovely red fruit layered with flavors of minerality and earth that finishes with a hint of smokiness. This has really evolved into a nice place.
2011 Marcel Lapierre Morgon N (Sans Soufre) - France, Burgundy, Beaujolais, Morgon (5/22/2024)
2011 Beaujolais Dinner (The Wolf - Oakland): A tangy, punchy wine with great concentration (one person at the table called it beefy) and red-fruited intensity, but with a carbonic edge that makes it lively and electric. Some at the table pick up some brett on the nose, though it doesn’t really bother me. Perhaps not the most elegant or regal wine with its crunchy acidity and snap, but most certainly a living wine with an inimitable identity.
2011 Marcel Lapierre Morgon Cuvée Marcel Lapierre - France, Burgundy, Beaujolais, Morgon (5/22/2024)
2011 Beaujolais Dinner (The Wolf - Oakland): It was pretty easy to tell that this was the Cuvee Marcel: a plumper version of the regular Lapierre Morgon with generous red fruit and spiky acidity. Intensely lively on the palate, but, like the Les Impenitents, this needs more time in the cellar to smooth out the edges. This is good (though I preferred the regular Lapierre Morgon today).
2011 Jean Foillard Morgon Côte du Py - France, Burgundy, Beaujolais, Morgon (5/22/2024)
2011 Beaujolais Dinner (The Wolf - Oakland): This was firing on all cylinders; it has a lot of the elegance of the Roilette, but has a slightly livelier acidic profile. The slightly darkish fruit is pleasantly restrained, giving this a rather savory flavor profile. Really, really good.

That '06 sounds great. Lapierre of yore.
 
originally posted by Rahsaan:
Now that you mention it, several bottles of 09 Lapierre open the other day at Rieslingstudy, but did not impress.

If we stick to Morgon, the magnum of 2010 Foillard Fleurie almost convinced me, but I preferred the magnum of 2014 Foillard CdP. I preferred the 2007 and 2010 3.14 even more, but those prices are insane and I'm not purchasing that. I'm also not sure my limited storage needs to invest in aging these wines for modest gains in palate elegance without the complexity of the wines I would prefer to age.

There were also a few bottles of 05 Descombes Morgon VV that were a touch bretty for my tastes and not convincing of the 20-year wait, but still very fun to taste.

But, mileage varies for different people!

I saw you in a photo of that event! I'm with you on the aging thing. I'm no longer sure that I get out of it what I put into it. I'm not even going to let Desvignes age that long anymore (I mean, once I've finished off my 2011s and 2014s).
 
originally posted by BJ:

That '06 sounds great. Lapierre of yore.

Quite lovely. Definitely not as edgy as more recent vintages of Lapierre have been (though that may also have been a function of age).
 
Whoops, forgot to add the note of the 2016 Lapierre I had with the 2010 Foillard Morgon CdP.

2016 Marcel Lapierre Morgon - France, Burgundy, Beaujolais, Morgon (3/7/2025)

I liked this quite a bit. Has crunchy red fruit that perhaps some may find a touch volatile, but for me, I can appreciate the crackling energy of this wine. Definitely seems a bit edgier than when Marcel was doing the winemaking before he passed in 2010. But, it still is good.
 
originally posted by VLM:
I'm not even going to let Desvignes age that long

Two recent bottles of 2005 Javernières (#1) so good! I didn't love the wine as recently as three years ago; seemed too rustic even for my taste, and possibly a touch reduced. They also don't seem to do that great once all traces of primary fruit are lost while bottle sweetness isn't yet attained. All that nonsense behind us - somewhat demanding in its layered resilience, with a touch of earthy rusticity, but with shocking depth. Like driving a Chamonard with a stick shift.
 
originally posted by Pavel Tchichikov:
originally posted by VLM:
I'm not even going to let Desvignes age that long

Two recent bottles of 2005 Javernières (#1) so good! I didn't love the wine as recently as three years ago; seemed too rustic even for my taste, and possibly a touch reduced. They also don't seem to do that great once all traces of primary fruit are lost while bottle sweetness isn't yet attained. All that nonsense behind us - somewhat demanding in its layered resilience, with a touch of earthy rusticity, but with shocking depth. Like driving a Chamonard with a stick shift.

Wish I'd held onto mine now, I sold it off long ago.
 
originally posted by BJ:
Wish I'd held onto mine now, I sold it off long ago.

must have been at the height of the market in late 2021, when auction prices particularly for Jayer, Coche-Dury, and Desvignes were inflated.
 
originally posted by Pavel Tchichikov:
originally posted by BJ:
Wish I'd held onto mine now, I sold it off long ago.

must have been at the height of the market in late 2021, when auction prices particularly for Jayer, Coche-Dury, and Desvignes were inflated.

I just got sick of storing it, not knowing what and when the end result would be.
 
originally posted by BJ:
originally posted by Pavel Tchichikov:
originally posted by BJ:
Wish I'd held onto mine now, I sold it off long ago.

must have been at the height of the market in late 2021, when auction prices particularly for Jayer, Coche-Dury, and Desvignes were inflated.

I just got sick of storing it, not knowing what and when the end result would be.

My last bottles were quite pinote but that's not really what I'm looking for.

All these questions could be answered if people checked the Jeebus bored.
 
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