Turkey Day wines?

originally posted by Jeff Grossman:
originally posted by mark e:
Brun is 13.5
The label says 12.5%.
There are a couple of different bottlings. Assume you mean Ancien Nouveau, but whereas for US import there is an allowed range, we have to report the exact ABV. That is why the labels are often different.
 
I had a hard time getting excited about that Felix. Bretty (in a controlled way) along with a dose of Mourvedre isn't my CnP jam...

Also had a '20 Chapelle des Bois Morgon Rontay Just way too ripe.

Division Nouveau Nouveau Excellent fun.

'23 Luneau Papin les Vergers Sort of meh on this, liked previous vintages. A little sparkley.

Wines going through late fall doldrums?
 
Started with a Bruno Paillard 2012 (Extra Brut Assemblage) that was quite delicious and my guests brought a 2023 Aubert Chard (many letters on the label that I neglected to note, not my thing) and then a 2022 Barbeito Bastardo Vinhas do Farrobo Tinto (10%!!!) that was light and lovely with the bird.
 
JL is on the Mark. Gonon was fine but certainly not exuberant as one might assume given its 2015 origin story. Straight forward and still structured with the fruit peeking out. Would wait for at least 2-3 years before trying another one.... Not my favorite Gonon St. Joseph by a good stretch and remains to be seen if the wine gains complexity as well.
 
originally posted by Cole Kendall:
< a 2022 Barbeito Bastardo Vinhas do Farrobo Tinto (10%!!!) that was light and lovely with the bird.

That's a ravishing wine. One that is not at all inexpensive!
 
originally posted by MLipton:
Turkey Day wines?Happy Thanksgiving to those of you who celebrate. Our plan is to have a roast duck for tonight’s dinner (domestic turkey == meh) and to open a bottle of something nice. 2014 Charvin CdP is right now the odds-on favorite around here. What are your plans?

Mark Lipton

We get local heritage breed turkeys and spatchcock after a couple days of dry brining which yields pretty good results. We only do a 12-14 pound turkey, so maybe that's part of it. There were a few dry bits to the breast, but mostly pretty good.

Fun 2016 base BdB horizontal (was also going to do Guiborat Prisme.16 but we didn't need it):
2016 Laherte Frères Champagne Blanc de Blancs Extra Brut Les Grandes Crayères (d.02/2020)
N.V. Agrapart Champagne Grand Cru Terroirs Blanc de Blancs Extra Brut (base 2016, d.02/2020)

My better half requested this white:
2018 Domaine du Collier Saumur Blanc

My FiL loves Burgundy:
2005 Domaine Chandon de Briailles Corton-Bressandes MAGNUM

I wanted more red wine:
2017 Ch“teau L'Eglise-Clinet

Everything was very good, but I've had better bottles of all four wines (well except the 2017 Ch“teau L'Eglise-Clinet which was great and I've never had before). That's just the way it goes sometimes I suppose.
 
originally posted by Jeff Grossman:
Barale 2016 Barbaresco Serraboella while eating.

The Barale is the first 2016 Barbaresco that I've had in a while. Open for business, drinking beautifully, earthy, dark red fruits, liked even by the 21-year-old at the table.

I've been staring down 2016 PdB Rabaja and this gives me some encouragement.

originally posted by Jeff Grossman:
What a world.

Indeed.
 
originally posted by BJ:
I had a hard time getting excited about that Felix. Bretty (in a controlled way) along with a dose of Mourvedre isn't my CnP jam...

You know, I used to prefer Mourvedre CndP but I'm definitely more in the Grenache camp now. shrug.

originally posted by BJ:
Division Nouveau Nouveau Excellent fun.

'23 Luneau Papin les Vergers Sort of meh on this, liked previous vintages. A little sparkley.

Wines going through late fall doldrums?

I have really liked all the Division wines I've tried. I've got that exact Luneau in the fridge to try. I wish you had better news.

Nothing showed great at our dinner either. Who knows the why of it all.
 
originally posted by Mark Anisman:
JL is on the Mark. Gonon was fine but certainly not exuberant as one might assume given its 2015 origin story. Straight forward and still structured with the fruit peeking out. Would wait for at least 2-3 years before trying another one.... Not my favorite Gonon St. Joseph by a good stretch and remains to be seen if the wine gains complexity as well.

Teh Rule etc etc
 
originally posted by VLM:
originally posted by BJ:
I had a hard time getting excited about that Felix. Bretty (in a controlled way) along with a dose of Mourvedre isn't my CnP jam...

You know, I used to prefer Mourvedre CndP but I'm definitely more in the Grenache camp now. shrug.

originally posted by BJ:
Division Nouveau Nouveau Excellent fun.

'23 Luneau Papin les Vergers Sort of meh on this, liked previous vintages. A little sparkley.

Wines going through late fall doldrums?

I have really liked all the Division wines I've tried. I've got that exact Luneau in the fridge to try. I wish you had better news.

Nothing showed great at our dinner either. Who knows the why of it all.

I had the LP year wrong...'22. 2nite, it's fine with appetizers w our neighbor. Alive.

I do think late fall doldrums are a thing.

Old vine Grenache with 10-15 - sublime.
 
originally posted by mark e:
originally posted by Rahsaan:

Yet, somehow, nobody in my family was interested in hearing me wax on about English sparkling wine...
Their loss. It is all quite interesting, and I have had a fair number of excellent ones.

Good to hear. I was actually just saying that the best case for drinking these wines still seems to be when one is in SE England, as the value relative to Champagne doesn't strike me as very good. But, there is so much English sparkling wine and I know very little.
 
originally posted by Rahsaan:
originally posted by mark e:
originally posted by Rahsaan:

Yet, somehow, nobody in my family was interested in hearing me wax on about English sparkling wine...
Their loss. It is all quite interesting, and I have had a fair number of excellent ones.
the value relative to Champagne doesn't strike me as very good.
I would say the opposite, but it really depends on which UK sparklers are imported and available vs. the literal sea of Champagne imported. Generally I would spend less than ½ for a UK méthode champenoise wine.
 
originally posted by Tom Blach:
originally posted by Cole Kendall:
< a 2022 Barbeito Bastardo Vinhas do Farrobo Tinto (10%!!!) that was light and lovely with the bird.

That's a ravishing wine. One that is not at all inexpensive!

I got it on kind of a deal so and Thanksgiving is a special occasion here. I have one more and am not sure how long I can wait.
 
originally posted by Pavel Tchichikov:
originally posted by VLM:
My FiL loves Burgundy:
2005 Domaine Chandon de Briailles Corton-Bressandes MAGNUM

Wow. Given the response of 05 savigny village and lavieres when double-decanted and transported across state borders to a Grossman-led regional politburo propaganda initiative this mag should be epic, eventually.

i love their 05s; they are potentially as good as what the domaine accomplished in 98-00, if not better

I've had the 2005 twice before where it showed better. Fabulous, in fact (if brooklynguy lurks here, he can chime in on the summer magnum). From 750 in 2022 and magnum over the summer. Wine, and Burgundy especially, is a temperamental and nonlinear thing. The wines have never been regularly available in my market, so I have a smattering of different wines from different vintages.
 
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