2022 Wehrheim Birkweiler Mandelberg Weissburgunder GG

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Rahsaan

Rahsaan
I don't often gravitate towards Weissburgunder, but the wines do have a place. Deliciously perfumed ripe crisp orchard fruit, with regal GG depth and mineral refinement. This is a wine that begs to be drunk, appreciated on its own, and paired with your dinner.
 
originally posted by Pavel Tchichikov:
that said, WB GG? WTF!
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Not sure I follow the logic. Are you even more skeptical of the grape than I am? You feel that GG status should only be conferred on Riesling and Spätburgunder? What about Silvaner?

This raises interesting trivia, because of course the ground premise is that the vineyard potential qualifies for the status. But presumably there are grapes that could not be called GG. Müller-Thurgau perhaps?
 
I overdose on Simone Adams WB these days. Some exciting food pairings exist. I have fond memories of Holger's if I can just figure out how to get my hands on the thing(s) once again.
 
originally posted by Rahsaan:
Ha!

I didn't find it overdone. ymmv.
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i just checked teh records, and i can confirm that i drank a bottle of this shit some 18 months or so ago. iirc, it got a zillion points from teh points guys, and teh spam filters on teh fatmail weren't working at teh time.

anyway, like a moth to a flame, i ordered and opened same, and... it tasted like, uh... wine. not bad wine, and in fact, clearly german wine, but tbh, if in a blind tasting it had been revealed as any of teh main varieties usually fermented dry in teh vaterland i would have just shrugged and moved on.

which is to say that i don't get much more information from your comments (no offense intended, obv) -- like, did it improve with time and actually have a distinct pb character, or was it just, ahem, a nice white wine?

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originally posted by fatboy:
i can confirm that i drank a bottle of this shit some 18 months or so ago...if in a blind tasting it had been revealed as any of teh main varieties usually fermented dry in teh vaterland i would have just shrugged and moved on...did it improve with time and actually have a distinct pb character, or was it just, ahem, a nice white wine
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This was my first time with the wine, so I cannot speak to the evolution. But it definitely tasted like PB to me. Admittedly not consumed blind, but I kept remarking on how different the profile was to his Rieslings. Although again, who knows what would happen blind.

I was making that comparison because I actually never ordered this wine. I ordered a bunch of his Kastanienbusch Riesling, but was mistakenly sent some of these instead by the LF Packing Crew. I took it as a sign that I should open my mind.

I was at the winery in 2023, tasting his other 22 Weissburgunders, which perhaps had more of the refreshing playful character, but I see the value in all the expressions. Of course others may think otherwise. And now I'm tempted to open this for the dotster next week, to get another read...
 
I think I've told you how much I've liked the few vintages of the Rebholz Weissburgunder GG I've had. Do you think I'd like this as well? Hopefully, it's cheaper.
 
originally posted by VLM:
I think I've told you how much I've liked the few vintages of the Rebholz Weissburgunder GG I've had. Do you think I'd like this as well? Hopefully, it's cheaper.
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You probably would, from what I know of your palate. Wehrheim is 'similar' to Rebholz (they farm many of the same vineyards), but with a bit more forward juicy body. I'm sure they are plenty serious and would age well, but my current plan is to buy Wehrheim to drink young and Rebholz to age (they do have that extra level of elegance).

Wehrheim's Mandelberg Weissburgunder GG is $65-70. I see Rebholz's Mandelberg Weiss at the same price, although Rebholz's Sonnenschein Weiss GG sometimes gets listed for $100+ (despite the fact that at the winery, Rebholz has same 60 euro price for both).
 
originally posted by Rahsaan:
originally posted by VLM:
I think I've told you how much I've liked the few vintages of the Rebholz Weissburgunder GG I've had. Do you think I'd like this as well? Hopefully, it's cheaper.
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You probably would, from what I know of your palate. Wehrheim is 'similar' to Rebholz (they farm many of the same vineyards), but with a bit more forward juicy body. I'm sure they are plenty serious and would age well, but my current plan is to buy Wehrheim to drink young and Rebholz to age (they do have that extra level of elegance).

Wehrheim's Mandelberg Weissburgunder GG is $65-70. I see Rebholz's Mandelberg Weiss at the same price, although Rebholz's Sonnenschein Weiss GG sometimes gets listed for $100+ (despite the fact that at the winery, Rebholz has same 60 euro price for both).
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The Rebholz pricing is what keeps me away.
 
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