TN: At Noreetuh With Yule Kim (Dec. 21, 2025)

Jeff Grossman

Jeff Grossman
attendees: Brad, Craig, Franco, Jayson, Jeff, Rahsaan, Sasha, Victor, Yule

Yule Kim is in town and, as many of us have not yet met him, we quick assemble the usual crew and snag a table at Noreetuh. I suspect that Jin simply pencils us in every 3 or 4 weeks, whether we call ahead or not. In any case, he is a grand host, the staff are always pleasant and totally on top of things, so we can just order freely -- two chickens, two ducks, two cabbages, two tartares, etc etc -- and dive right in.

Nine people, twenty-one wines, so you know what you're in for, eh? Yule certainly did and swung past Chambers St to pick up an older nebbiolo.

And away we go:

Bruno Paillard 2012 Champagne BdB - beautiful, what a nice way to start the evening, delicate bubbles, just-barely bready/yeasty, bright crisp-tender acidity, medium-long finish

After the welcome-wine, I jump right into the hotly-discussed sub-flight of Austrian whites. It is not everybody's cuppa, despite long and hard peddling by Thor and SFJoe back in the day. The alcohol can stick out, the textures are oily/heavy, it's not always clear what grape is speaking. But I have found, when they're "on" they are among the most fascinating. I try to purchase very carefully in this category as the wines are also not inexpensive.

Alzinger 2011 Steinertal Riesling Smaragd - fantastic, beautiful, tastes of slightly Pezzy rocks (limestone), but not everyone is impressed: Sasha finds it pretty but static, lacking in dynamism; while Victor simply shrugs, "eh"

Alzinger 2012 Steinertal Riesling Smaragd - this is less vivid, less intense than the '11 but, in a way it is better balanced, with more flesh to go over those acidy rocks

Nikolaihof 2016 Riesling Smaragd "Vom Stein" - 12.5%, pretty but kinda lightweight, white river stones, not my fave tonight, "herbal, leafy stuff" -Sasha

Prager 2016 GV Ried Achleiten Stockkultur Smaragd® - 13.5%, very assertive, tastes more golden than green, rich/full texture, but acidity slightly diminished; I think it was at this point that Brad marvelled aloud that neither the region nor this grape are his favorites but that these have been good wines

Guiborat 2019 Champagne Extra-Brut BdB GC "Prisme" - 11/23 dosage of 2.5 g/l, made no lasting impression, I guess, as there really is no note

Huet 2010 Vouvray Demi-Sec "Clos du Bourg" - pretty, of course, who doesn't like nice ripe chenin with chalk notes and a spliff of acidity; yet this really is a tad sweeter than I'd like it to be

Dom. des Senons 2023 IGP (Yonne) Pinot Noir "Fracta Corda" - 12.5%, a discovery and darling of William Kelley, and it is a great great story; however, the wine is light and anonymous (this is only the second vintage of the domaine)

Lena Filliatreau 1989 Saumur-Champigny - textbook Saumur, well, textbook aged Saumur; some old scribblings suggest this was assertively green peppery back in the day, but now it is mostly the cabernet heritage showing with just a decorative dollop of pyrazinic flavors, yum

Dom. de Montrieux (Ariane Lesne) 2020 Pineau d'Aunis "Grand Gousier" - from vines bought from Emile Heredia when he married his neighbor at Le Briseau; very old vines and I am just in love, this is everything pd'a should be

Monsecco 2013 Gattinara - fruity, earthy, good nebbiolo but starting to fade

Ch. Rausan-Segla 1988 Margaux - seriously black, still incredibly strong, red-fruited, wow

Ch. Gruaud-Larose 1986 Saint-Julien - not quite so dark as the Margaux, also red-fruited but kinda strict, maybe even a little skimpy

Musso Sebastiano 1982 Barbaresco "Bricco Rio Sordo" - lightweight, fruit cup heavy on little berries, clove?, sound, not oxidized but definitely 'lifted'

About now either my palate or my penmanship failed. Or both.

Hudelot-Noellat 2006 Nuits-St-Georges 1er "Les Murgers" - no note

Jos. Drouhin 1999 Chambolle-Musigny 1er - just "beautiful"

Chandon de Briailles 2006 Corton "Les Bressandes" - beautiful and vivid acidity, a few people say it is tart

Knipser 2017 Kirschgarten Spatburgunder - 5 128 029 0045 16, 12.5%, no note

Apollo's Praise 2024 Scheurebe, Lahoma Vineyard - yup tastes like scheurebe

Ch. de Fargues 1990 Sauternes - just "good"

Ch. Climens 1986 Sauternes-Barsac 1er - crisp, pure, stands up to anything on my plate

At this point, the bill was brought, Jayson had the presence of mind to coordinate the dance of the credit cards, and I lurched launched myself towards home. But several attendees continued attending. I am told they swapped pours with neghboring tables, incited a red tide, re-enacted a scene from "Sideways", and other merry sodden shenanigans.

A good time was had by all.

Bottle shots courtesy of Brad, as always.
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guiborat is only 2.5 g/l but given the fruit-dominant concentration of 2019 even so little dosage needs time to integrate and resolve.
quite impressive i thought, and would be very happy with this in the cellar

Knipser 2017 Kirschgarten Spatburgunder - 5 128 029 0045 16, 12.5%, no note

that is the note. you need to break enigma to decode
 
Glad you all had a nice time, Yule is a great guy and very knowledgeable wino and we are overdue for a Bay Area visit...
 
My wine moment of the night was double-fisting the '89 Filliatreau and the '20 Montrieux and just breathing in the aromas in turn, the Filliatreau with that classic Cab Franc cured tobacco leaf and the '20 Montrieux having a really deep, whole-clustered inflected nose. Both were beautiful, beautiful wines.

I will try to put together more detailed impressions, but my initial thoughts, off the top of my head, mostly tracks with Jeff's. I perhaps thought the '06 CdB was a little unready (though I thought it was beautiful too) and that the '99 Drouhin probably could use more time (it seemed rather burly, but it too was lovely to drink despite that). I think I remember the Hudelot-Noellat being a little slimmer and less concentrated than the CdB and Drouhin, but also enjoyable.

Guiborat and Paillard were great for different reason; Guiborat probably could use some more time to unwind while the Paillard was already in a great place.

Alzinger always good, though I think Sasha's point about the palate not really evolving or being dynamic was spot on. Nikolaihof was also a relatively slimmer wine, but what threw me off was this creamy, waxy, textured note I always get from Nikolaihof that I'm not always a fan of. Prager was nice.

My bottle was not dead, but definitely not exactly singing either. The cork was very loose when I tried to uncork it, so maybe a flawed cork had something to do with the volatility. Jeff's Gattinara was textbook and yum.

Agree with Jeff that the '88 Rausan-Segla was a little more impactful than the '86 Gruaud Larose, which seemed to me to be a quieter wine. '88 Rausan-Segla had delicious purple fruit that was layered with smoky tobacco and pencil shaving.

'86 Climens was great (there was perhaps a touch of acetone to it, but I thought it blew off. Very similar performance to when I had this back in October). I don't really remember the '90 Fargues; I was pretty tuckered out by the time I got to it.

It was great meeting everyone in real life. I had a lot of fun and the New York crew are great hosts! Until next time!
 
Thanks for the notes. I had vague intentions of using the lineup to post notes later, but it was all flying fast and furious and I was in no condition to be analytical.

originally posted by Jeff Grossman:

After the welcome-wine, I jump right into the hotly-discussed sub-flight of Austrian whites.

Alzinger 2011 Steinertal Riesling Smaragd
Alzinger 2012 Steinertal Riesling Smaragd
Nikolaihof 2016 Riesling Smaragd "Vom Stein"
Prager 2016 GV Ried Achleiten Stockkultur Smaragd®

Yes, I still struggle with the idea of maligning an entire fine country like AT; a point which Sasha conceded. But, I also didn't love the Alzingers on the night, despite being their pre-game cheerleader. I enjoyed the elegance of the 11 more than the body of the 12, but both were a little flat for the energy I expect chez Alzinger. Recent purchases from Flatiron, so always a gamble in that respect. Will get more analytical when I open the next bottles and hope for the best.

Nikolaihof was difficult to appreciate that night. I'm sure alone with the right food and it would be a joy, but it was too severe and herbal to grab me in that dark crowded room. The Prager GV on the other hand was extroverted and elegant enough to hit all the right notes for the occasion.

originally posted by Jeff Grossman:
Musso Sebastiano 1982 Barbaresco "Bricco Rio Sordo" - lightweight, fruit cup heavy on little berries, clove?, sound, not oxidized but definitely 'lifted'

If that was sound, I would hate to taste an unsound bottle! I thought it was pretty close to DNPIM territory.

originally posted by Jeff Grossman:
Dom. des Senons 2023 IGP (Yonne) Pinot Noir "Fracta Corda" ...light and anonymous...

Knipser 2014 Kirschgarten Spatburgunder - 5 128 029 0045 16, 12.5%, no note

Hudelot-Noellat 2006 Nuits-St-Georges 1er "Les Murgers" - no note

Jos. Drouhin 1999 Chambolle-Musigny 1er - just "beautiful"

Chandon de Briailles 2006 Corton "Les Bressandes" - beautiful and vivid acidity, a few people say it is tart

I was happy to see a bunch of pinot noirs. We started with the two less noble iterations. Agree that it was not the best night for Senons to be fully appreciated. I'm sure better times are ahead.

I enjoyed the Knipser (a 2014 GG for what it's worth), because I am a fan of the genre. It definitely doesn't play in the refined Burgundy register, but it was resolved juicy silky and frank in its expression of slightly-rustic style Spätburgunder.

HN, Drouhin and the Briailles needed air to show themselves, and none were singing like the Bordeaux bottles were, but it was still nice to taste them.

originally posted by Jeff Grossman:
Apollo's Praise 2024 Scheurebe, Lahoma Vineyard - yup tastes like scheurebe

But so dry and lean, definitely a re-calibration from HGS expectations. Interesting stuff.
 
originally posted by Yule Kim:
My wine moment of the night was double-fisting the '89 Filliatreau and the '20 Montrieux and just breathing in the aromas in turn, the Filliatreau with that classic Cab Franc cured tobacco leaf and the '20 Montrieux having a really deep, whole-clustered inflected nose. Both were beautiful, beautiful wines.

Agree. Such vivid aromas that were both archetypes for their grapes. Took one far away from the East Village and created a sensory slice of the Loire..
 
originally posted by Rahsaan:
Agree that it was not the best night for Senons to be fully appreciated. I'm sure better times are ahead.

it was fine when popped for tca check three hours earlier, except for a whiff of vanilla oak that it needed to outgrow

it was quite silly by middle of dinner, i thought

the next day and the day after it attained surprisingly reasonable depth and good balance - i think vine age will make quite a difference here
 
I am sure the participants mentioned above will appreciate this after considerable amount of banter regarding the matter - actually had an austrian riesling i loved on saturday, 2017 pichler kellerberg.
fresh, long, precise, very much in the classic sonata-allegro form, and impressively complex in the finish with a trace of herbal dandelion situation bordering on savory
 
originally posted by Pavel Tchichikov:
I am sure the participants mentioned above will appreciate this after considerable amount of banter regarding the matter - actually had an austrian riesling i loved on saturday, 2017 pichler kellerberg.
fresh, long, precise, very much in the classic sonata-allegro form, and impressively complex in the finish with a trace of herbal dandelion situation bordering on savory

Ha!

Dale posted notes on WLDG and I asked how you did with the Austrians. He said you didn't care much for the 07 Prager, but perhaps less a function of its nationality and more a function of its size (which is not altogether unrelated, but that's another conversation). Pichler also very good, obviously.
 
originally posted by Rahsaan:
originally posted by Pavel Tchichikov:
I am sure the participants mentioned above will appreciate this after considerable amount of banter regarding the matter - actually had an austrian riesling i loved on saturday, 2017 pichler kellerberg.
fresh, long, precise, very much in the classic sonata-allegro form, and impressively complex in the finish with a trace of herbal dandelion situation bordering on savory

Ha!

Dale posted notes on WLDG and I asked how you did with the Austrians. He said you didn't care much for the 07 Prager, but perhaps less a function of its nationality and more a function of its size (which is not altogether unrelated, but that's another conversation). Pichler also very good, obviously.

what did he make of the four vintages of von der fels? if i read the vibes correctly, for me the distance between the 08 and 09/10/18 was far greater than for anyone else seated in the dress circle. i have since learned that apparently 08 was challenging at that address, or at least inconsistent, so this is even more remarkable. with 08, we are talking creamy texture of aged riesling of the early 90s in ruwer/mosel, when it was dry without trying to be dry if you know what i mean (cause i sure don't!)
 
originally posted by Pavel Tchichikov:
what did he make of the four vintages of von der fels? if i read the vibes correctly, for me the distance between the 08 and 09/10/18 was far greater than for anyone else seated in the dress circle. i have since learned that apparently 08 was challenging at that address, or at least inconsistent, so this is even more remarkable. with 08, we are talking creamy texture of aged riesling of the early 90s in ruwer/mosel, when it was dry without trying to be dry if you know what i mean (cause i sure don't!)

Now we're into a game of telephone, me channeling your drinking partner, via a different board!

So you're saying you enjoyed the 08 more than the others? Although perhaps with a backhanded compliment by referencing wines 15 years older!

From his notes, Dale liked 09 the best and 10 the least, with 08 and 18 in the middle.

Sadly, I don't have much experience with Keller, even the affordable Von der Fels. Too popular, so clearly not something for me to pursue!
 
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