My complaints with Burgaud Morgon

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Rahsaan

Rahsaan
2007 J-M Burgaud Morgon Cte du Py VV
This was my first time with Burgaud and I must say it was not my favorite style of Morgon. It was savory and herbal yet deep dark and tannic showing the thick grains and structure from what I gather was the oak aging. And for my Morgon tastes, it was showing too much sturdy tannic structure.

Nothing wrong with this wine, but I came to the region via Foillard, Lapierre and Thvenet and their more exotic and fragrant versions are what has captured my heart. Of course I have no way of knowing which is more 'typical' as both styles are likely marked by winemaking practices. But maybe I'd like the 'basic' Burgaud Cte du Py better for what I presume must be greater freshness?
 
I visited Burguaud few years ago and found the wines good (we tasted back to 1961 :)) ). But I'm pretty sure that what comes to the US is different from what I tasted there.
 
We have the basic CdP, the rserve and a few bottles of the "James" available. I always prefer the basic one; the other two seem to have a bit of oak showing and are quite impenetrable unless one is willing to keep them open for 2-3 days when they amazingly do come around. Maybe they just need 40 years aging like Kolm's.

But why would the ones in the US be different what you tasted at the property, Kolm?
 
originally posted by Claude Kolm:
But I'm pretty sure that what comes to the US is different from what I tasted there.
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Yes, why would this be the case?

One indication is that the VV cuvee I tasted was not listed on his website, although I assumed it might be the same as what his website calls "reserve".
 
originally posted by Claude Kolm:
His American importer likes lots of new oak.
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Yes, the oak structure was what was putting me off on this one.

I'll keep that in mind in case I see his bottles in France.
 
At the time I visited, I believe it was Kacher. I haven't followed up since then. Even if Kacher no longer imports, maybe Kacher convinced Burgaud that is what Americans want?

I was there with a UK importer who definitely would not take a woody cuve.
 
I think the 2007 needs some time in bottle. when they first arrived, I bought one and it was fantastic. Now it seems to have closed up a bit. The 2006 CdP VV was delicious recently, and the oak was not obtrusive.

I work for RVWC, and we definitely do not like obtrusive oak!!!
 
originally posted by Bill Averett:
Now it seems to have closed up a bit. The 2006 CdP VV was delicious recently, and the oak was not obtrusive.

I work for RVWC, and we definitely do not like obtrusive oak!!!
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That's good to hear.

Although you do see it as a much more structured style than Foillard, Lapierre, and Thvenet? I thought it was a nice wine, just not my style for Morgon.
 
The Burgaud needs some time in bottle, as I say. Probably best after 4-5 years. Patience is a virtue here.

I'm not sure I have a favorite, but my most memorable Morgon was a bottle of Folliard, and I probably drink more Lapierre than anything else.

I appreciate Burgaud's style, but I prefer the other. Of course, Burgaud is friendlier on the wallet, so buy some and put it away; I think you will be rewarded. I have not had Folliard recently. I drank a 2002 this past Fall, and it was amazing. I'm pretty sure I posted on it.

I will investigate this assertion that Burgaud exports a different style to us than what is sold in France. As far as I know, Kacher no longer imports the wine, and if this was true, I don't know why he would continue with his preferences.
 
I have some Burgaud 1999 Cote Rotie in my cellar. It was imported into CA by Martine who is not known for overoaked wines. The wine needs some more time but I didn't think it was overoaked.
 
originally posted by Rahsaan:
originally posted by Lou Kessler:
I have some Burgaud 1999 Cote Rotie..
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Different producer.

We're talking Beaujolais here.

Funny thing those French names. They duplicate themselves..
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Thanks for the info, I saw where in another post somebody wrote about Burguad's Cdp. So what the hell do I know. Hard to keep track.
 
originally posted by Lou Kessler:
I saw where in another post somebody wrote about Burguad's Cdp. So what the hell do I know.
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Cte du Py.

Someone of your Napan Stature probably doesn't follow these pedestrian appellations and vineyards very closely :)
 
originally posted by Rahsaan:
originally posted by Lou Kessler:
I saw where in another post somebody wrote about Burguad's Cdp. So what the hell do I know.
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Cte du Py.

Someone of your Napan Stature probably doesn't follow these pedestrian appellations and vineyards very closely :)
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If it sold in the store I would. But your speaking about something that is too esoteric for common people from the bay area.
 
originally posted by Rahsaan:
originally posted by Lou Kessler:
I saw where in another post somebody wrote about Burguad's Cdp. So what the hell do I know.
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Cte du Py.

Someone of your Napan Stature probably doesn't follow these pedestrian appellations and vineyards very closely :)
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If it sold in the store I would. But your speaking about something that is too esoteric for common people from the bay area.
 
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