My complaints with Burgaud Morgon

Rather than conjecture about what Burgaud is doing on several wine board, why don't one of you give him a call and find out what is wood treatment is like and who are his importers and if he sends the same wine to everybody.

Jean-Marc BURGAUD
Morgon 69910 Villi-Morgon
Tl. 04 74 69 16 10 fax : 04 74 69 16 10

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www.jean-marc-burgaud.com
jeanmarcburgaud@libertysurf.fr

Several people in this thread speak French, assuming M. Burgaud does not speak English, and wouldn't a quick call be simple enough?

It took me 22 seconds to find his coordinates on the internet. Currently, my phone company charges me 11 cents a minute to call France.

Why not end all this speculation. Or send the guy an e-mail!
 
Thanks Rahsaan. That should clear things up. I don't see this as stalking but an informational request. The guy will be delighted.
 
originally posted by Otto Nieminen:
originally posted by Scott Kraft:
Joe,

Any suggestions on Gaza?
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Yes. Forget the dual state solution (every attempt has failed for obvious reasons); lets try a single state solution.
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If by a single state solution, you mean just Israel or just Palestine, that seems to be a non-starter at this point.
 
No. I mean that pretty recent academic idea where to put it rather simply all the inhabitants of the whole geographical area which comprises Israel, West Bank and Gaza will have the same rights and duties and citizenship. Of course there are problems with this as well - Israel e.g. will have to give up its unique Jewish character (but isn't that by its very nature undemocratic?); Palestinians will have to accept that Israelis are there to stay. But with the first partition plan made a decade before Israel's independence, we can probably safely say that that isn't a workable solution.
 
I was thinking more of Martin Buber, Mahatma Gandhi, Albert Einstein, Hannah Arendt, Judah Magnes, Tony Judt, Ilan Papp, etc. as advocates of it.
 
originally posted by Otto Nieminen:
I was thinking more of Martin Buber, Mahatma Gandhi, Albert Einstein, Hannah Arendt, Judah Magnes, Tony Judt, Ilan Papp, etc. as advocates of it.
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Of course, but I find it bitterly ironic that an individual that this country has long vilified as a "nutcase" poses the question in a cogent and -- dare I say? -- eloquent way, and has chosen to do so in a newspaper editorial in said country.

Mark Lipton
 
Qadhdhafi has always been a master of the classical Arabic tradition of rhetoric. But I don't like dictators. But he seems to have softened a bit in his old age. I visited Libya in 2002 and again in 2004 - even during that brief period, the whole atmosphere seemed to have changed and was much less oppressive. I imagine touring the archaeological sites there now might even be pleasant!
 
originally posted by Otto Nieminen:
Qadhdhafi has always been a master of the classical Arabic tradition of rhetoric. But I don't like dictators. But he seems to have softened a bit in his old age. I visited Libya in 2002 and again in 2004 - even during that brief period, the whole atmosphere seemed to have changed and was much less oppressive. I imagine touring the archaeological sites there now might even be pleasant!
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Yes, the accounts I've read suggest that he's become much less angry as he's grown older, or perhaps simply realized that mice are best off not biting lions. Of course, Hisham Mattar's "In the Country of Men" left me with few illusions about the nature of life under Qaddafi.

Mark Lipton
 
I received a response from Msr. Burgaud and it appears that the cuvee I purchased "Cote du Py VV" is the same as the "Cote du Py" in Europe. (I.E. it is not what is known in Europe as "Cote du Py Reserve").

He said that he changed the name and the color of the label for the American importer who wanted it to say "Vieilles Vignes" and who wanted the label in blue. He said he did not do anything different with the elevage for the American importer.

Mystery solved?
 
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